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[ Empire of Akino | Kanazawa, Uchiha Heartlands ]
[ An Imperial gathering has been organised, in the city of Kanazawa. Honouring their oath to the crown, the Imperial clans flock to the city where they are generously welcomed by the Uchiha clan - who have the honours of organising the meeting. The Gathering is a special occasion for the Imperial clans to muster together and discuss various topics. Or bring suggestions to the crown. As expected, the event is woven with intrigue from the participants as backdoor deals and alliances have been forged. Rivals plotting to outdo the other or schemes to thwart the plans of others. ]
[A collab between the Akinian Clans ]
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Following the conversation, Kiyomi's interest was piqued by the Tokugawa's suggestion. She briefly wondered how many more would flock. Trade and generating more wealth seemed to be matters that all were interested in. If it was only that easy to make different clans and people unite, Kiyomi mused to herself.
"A fine proposition, Lord Tokugawa," Kyiomi spoke up, "I am most interested myself to see how this new center of trade will fare."
Generating a soft silence that echoed her words, Kiyomi would await if there would be another dignitary that was going to speak up.
After listening quietly for the different proposals that have been brought up, Resu had a few thoughts in mind. But when the Empress concluded the topic brought up by the Tokugawa, he rose from his seat "Respected and honoured lords and ladies. As I am sure at least several of you may be aware, the Senju had recently suffered a blow to our resources and farms. It served to show my clan several things. But it also served as a thought that goes further than just the Senju. It served to show overall of what could happen, to all of us, if we do not make sure we are always capable of properly defending ourselves." He took a pause to look around before continuing.
"I wish to propose that we provide further supplies to the Empire, so they will be able to provide further Imperial protection. And it could help in many fronts, not only the clans as the example I already brought up, but also in regions struck by unrest, such as how the Rain province was mentioned to have been, or perform further operations against the zealots. And of course, it would be uncalled for me to propose such a thing and not say that the Senju themselves would be providing resources themselves to help push this agenda forth. I just hope more of you will think of this proposal and see the benefits it can have." Resu finished speaking and sat back down, moving to take a sip from his drink as he waited to hear if anyone would have anything to say about his proposal.
"The Uchiha are sorry for the losses that the Senju have been forced to bear," Hirasuke of the Uchiha began, "and to show our support, we will be willing to provide some financial aid. It won't allow those harmed to get all that they lost back. But, hopefully, it will provide some ailment."
Offering a small bow, Hirasuke wasn't done yet.
"But I will state that I don't agree with Master Senju's words. It is true that some clans don't have the same means to protect their subjects as well as others. And while the Uchiha is faithful to her Majesty and this realm, I don't find it entirely fair what Master Senju states. The Uchiha clan has been dutiful in providing for the Empire as guaranteeing the security of her people. Because one clan failed to do so, I don't see why the Uchiha should bear more burden."
The next to respond was Zakito. The leader of the Hon clan slightly frowned as the Senju suggested that clans should provide more. "Providing more resources is certainly noble and could benefit the Empire. However," Zakito paused for a mere second, "just throwing more resources at the Empire won't make it able to defend itself better. Resources are one thing but manpower will be also required if you desire more protection, Master Senju. And you have to keep in mind that your subjects won't be that thrilled either if folk from other clans start to arrive. The process isn't that simple or easy. Neither from a military or economical perspective."
Zakito wondered briefly how many would speak up. For this was a proposition that could harm or benefit certain clans.
"I think your proposition requires more work, Master Senju. For I think that it won't help as much as you imagine."
"But we could try to pool some resources together," Takeo of the Tamiyo said, waiting a second after Zakito had finished. "If we all pool some resources together and volunteer some troops then who knows? Maybe if it pleases her Majesty, we could try to fund another large military unit?"
Shirori quietly observed the proposition and subsequent oppositions to it, and she found herself agreeing with what the others were saying about it. "I would echo the opinions of the Hon and Uchiha, as admirable as the idea itself is. But I would like to second Lord Tamiyo's addition, collectively funding another military force would be beneficial to all denizens of the Empire, and could prove to help with relations, perhaps assuaging previous animosity one clan may hold for another to some degree."
Moru shifted uncomfortably in his seat as the Senju spoke of giving yet more to the Empire. While he listened to the other large clans in attendance quickly jump at the idea and the obvious gaining of favor it would curry them, Moru simply sighed.
"Your Majesty, though the proposition from the Senju has merit, it is not always possible for the smallest of clans to contribute manpower, resources, or coin to such endeavors. Perhaps if an alternative way for the smaller clans to contribute could be looked into, it would allow us to do as much as the largest among us while not financially crippling ourselves." he bowed his head as he relinquished the floor.
Tsuru frowned upon hearing the Senju with their topic. Holding the mug, which contained some warm tea, the Yamanaka took a careful sip to not burn her mouth. Lowering the mug, she waited for the Miyazato emissary to be done.
"I fear that I may be wrong but how is this a new topic? We already provide supplies to the Empire. I am sorry for the loss that the Senju clan suffered but it seems like this is a matter that should have been resolved by their own forces," Tsuru said, her tone polite but the phrasing giving away the slight irritation, "The unrest is being tackled in the Rain? The Imperial military has responded swiftly. To provide just more supplies, I dare say that won't just solve the issues. As for a new military unit? I don't see the need for that either. Expanding the military is one thing but what is entirely wrong with the current cohorts and formations that exist already?"
Resu waited patiently as he heard several of the responses that were expressed. None of the voiced ones expressed positivity towards his proposal, which was disappointing, but not entirely unexpected. The Uchiha offered to provide some financial aid, which made Resu turn to Hirasuke first "The offer of financial aid is appreciated, and will be considered." He said with a nod towards the Uchiha, before looking around the table "Several good notes have been brought up. It was a proposal to help expand the operations, and indeed, resources alone are not enough. And I do not believe my proposal ever required everyone to bring forth the exact same as all others, merely to provide more resources." Resu briefly glanced towards the Miyazato representative.
"So, with the opinions voiced, I believe it would be sufficient to say that it seems that this proposal certainly needs to be fleshed out and reconsidered if it is even needed. I personally still believe it will be more beneficial to do so, even if it won't be in only resources, as initially suggested. If anyone would still be interested in coming up with a better idea of how to pursue this proposal of mine, I am certainly open to discussing it further." Resu finished speaking once more and sat back down.
The young man was truly a bit confused by the topic at hand. Particularly when the motion of forming a new military unit was tossed out. Wasn't that very similar to the proposal of a coalition that had been shot down before? The Hanta stood, taking a moment to look around the room for a few moments and collect his thoughts. "Perhaps, we as Akinians should be using our clan's resources to not only protect and help our owns, but those of our neighbors as well. The way I see it, Master Senju has a point. What happened to the Senju is a firm reminder of what could truly happen to any of us." The Hanta said, looking around at the others in the room. "The Hanta have long believed that there is strength in unity, and so we agree with the proposal, and some of these excellent notes commented on the proposal. After all, we are all akinians here, no? If one of us hurts, so do the rest." He said, giving a long look towards the Senju representative. Deciding that perhaps after the meeting has ended, he should strike up a dialogue with that man. Discuss the proposal a bit further, and perhaps see how amicable he might be to one sitting on the Hanta's mind.
The small speech that the Hanta leader gave, first received a response from Zakito. "I would like to remind the Hanta that his logic is quite skewed," Zakito said, his tone calm yet a certain threat seemed to linger with the Hon's phrasing. "You state that this could happen to any of us? So far I see, I highly doubt that. The Sarutobi had to face bigger odds and they responded right away. My kin came to their aid the moment that the threat was there. Not reacting when the smoke was dwindling and the cries of the victims could be heard. The Senju brought this upon themselves."
Not letting his annoyance get to him, Zakito continued. "So your proposal? About Akinians together? I see little use in it. Certainly if one clan's suffering is acknowledged more than the other. Not to mention," Zakito would proceed with a gesture to those in the room, "you speak of using resources? Very well. Then I gladly await the Hanta to pay more taxations and resources so that her Majesty can be provided to expand the Imperial Akinian military. For the Akinian cause, Akino Victor, right Lord Hanta?"
The following to speak up was Tsuru of the Yamanaka. "If we are all Akinians, needing to use resources to help each other then I wonder why not more have stepped up to help the likes of the Omari. Or as Lord Hon pointed out, when the Sarutobi were actively dealing with a threat."
Frowning slightly, Tsuru waited a mere second before she continued on. "And I have yet to hear answers on my questions, Lord Hanta. What would be achieved with throwing more resources at the problem. Are we going to bribe the enemy with wealth? Wood and linen?"
Not needing an answer, Tsuru leaned back in her seat. "All I hear is that we need to bring up more resources. An easy task for the likes of those who have enough land and people, such as the Senju and Hanta. But not having the willpower to solve their issues without the guidance of others, it seems."
After his attempt at concluding the topic, the Hanta representative decided to speak up and show his support. Poor timing in Resu's opinion, but the Hanta tried pushing for something else. Which led to some remarks from the Hon and Yamanaka, but ones that even Resu felt were deserved, considering the attempted push at continuing the topic "I believe you have missed the part where I mentioned any interested parties can continue to discuss this proposal at a later point, mister Hanta. The opinions expressed showed well that the proposal needs to be fleshed out and thought on further. The show of support for the idea is nice, but as I have noted thrice by now, any further discussions of this topic should be continued after the meeting. No need to bother those who already expressed their opinions by pushing the topic further." Resu said, looking at the Hanta, shaking his head at the poor timing of the representative.
The next man to voice himself would be none other than Leo Tokugawa who kept a neutral facial expression about himself as he looked at Resu. "You have my condolences for what has happened to your people. I can offer a bit of resources to help rebuild your farms, yet I have to agree with several of the Lords and Lady that your plan does indeed need to be thought through a bit more. I also recommend not admitting defeat when a few say no. If a few people saying no made all the changes in the world, half of us probably wouldn't be here. I agree it needs to be fleshed out better, yet do try to stand your ground better. We all struggle, hell look at Master Riojin. Defended Amegakure with hardly any back up until the final event that transpired. Was it costly? One hundred percent, yet the difference between Amegakure and your farms is simple. He fought and defended thousands of lives. You? You ask for more security and us all to chip in when you failed to defend a few farms. Don't take my words as looking down or spitting on your suggestion. What I suggest is before asking the military to fix your issues, try using your own first." Leo said then looked between the Hyuuga and Hanta Representatives.
Leo rubbed his forehead a bit as he exhaled a bit. "Now a new unit sounds lovely on paper, yet when executing it to be a force that goes to others borders? That's where it falls down a bit. No one likes a force just waltzing in on their lands and claiming they are there to help. It creates more tension and it certainly doesn't help improve relations. Mostly when the last force to move onto someone, they shockingly became someone's vassal. I suggest building relations through messages and or visiting each other. Then like Lord Hon did when Sarutobi needed help. Then come to their aid." Leo then sat back in his chair and raised his drink and took a long sip from it.
When he was sure Lord Tokugawa was done, even though he wasn't sure if he was complimented while he also lectured someone else. Mitsunari would clear his throat. "I would…. suggest putting your men on more alert. Then if the situation continues, maybe then request the Imperial Military." Mitsunari said as he looked around the room. "As for the new force suggestion, it sounds like it has its promises. Although I do recommend maybe having an area for them to be stationed. Then when help is needed they can then act."
"Is it not the duty of the clans of the Empire to provide defense for our own peoples?" Lady Omari asked at the end of the conversation. "You speak boldly of the need for us to provide for the common defense of the realm, but where is a Hanta force mustering to assist the Empire in the east?" Crossing her arms the Omari woman shook her head. "Aside from that, it is folly to ask the smaller clans to give anymore then they already do. The necessary components to form an army cannot be magicked out of thin air. I am all for the protection of the Empire, but I cannot agree with this proposal."
Calmly sipping his tea, Shikamura Nara kept a keen eye on those present as things appeared to be heating up. The proposal from the Senju had been shot down rather quickly by several representatives, but the rest hadn't even had a chance to speak before Resu had withdrawn it. With the Hanta now apparently under fire as well, Shikamura pondered something for a moment. Waiting for Lady Omari to finish speaking, he glanced around for a moment before setting down his tea. "As some of the others have already done, the Nara clan extends their deepest sympathies to the Senju clan for that which they have suffered." Taking a moment's pause, Shikamura nodded politely towards Resu before looking aroud. "We would, however, have to agree that there are some flaws to the proposal that has been made. If it would please the Senju, the Nara clan would be happy to offer their assistance wherever we can. Be it medicine or advice, we would be honoured to discuss outside this meeting how we may support you to regain that which you've lost."
With that completed, Shikamura scratched his chin as if contemplating his next words. "As for the suggestion to create a new force… I'm afraid there are more questions than answers when it comes to this." Shrugging, the Nara leaned back in his chair. "If this force acts outside of the Imperial Military, then who do they report to? How are their actions monitored? Who is responsible for funding it?" Waving a hand somewhat dismissively, Shikamura sighed. "I also imagine Lord Tokugawa is rather correct that there will be quite some tension if clans with different beliefs and cultures begin traveling through each other's lands in force. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would be irresponsible for us to put forward such a proposal without considering all of the variables first."
Ferra found herself deeply focused on the meeting as it progressed. The Empress had provided some great news to the Arkos clan in granting them a fiefdom. This was an opportunity for their clan to finally prove themselves and earn more prestige within the Empire. it was an opportunity she did not intend to waste. When talk shifted to the Senju asking for clans to give more, Ferra narrowed her eyes ever so slightly. While she had already lobbied for clans to give more in order to try and earn a better place for themselves, she did not believe in simply providing charity to those who should have been able to look after themselves. Before she could voice her thoughts on the matter, however, the Hanta spoke up and threw things into a fervor. Glancing down at her drink, Ferra tried to gather her thoughts. She could feel her frustration growing as the participants spoke, arguing one way or the other. She had her own beliefs about a separate force, but this suggestion was different from the one she had supported during the previous Taika meeting. Looking up towards the Hanta and then around at the others, Ferra steeled her nerves. "It would appear that the larger issue at hand is that several clans are in need of greater protection. Whether it is due to a lack of preparedness or perhaps a lack of resources or training, the current events have shown that some are more vulnerable than others."
Pausing, the Arkos leader glanced towards Zakito. "I would have to agree with Lord Hon in that resources should not be wasted on simply trying to help out one clan or another. If resources are going to be spent, then it should be towards the betterment of the Empire as a whole. If a clan feels they are not capable of protecting themselves, then that's what friends are for. Just as the Hon assisted the Sarutobi in their time of need, that is how we can help each other. When the Housha were being decimated in Amegakure, many from different clans came in to help assist in repelling the invaders and trying to minimize the damage as much as possible. No amount of money would have made a difference if not for the people who put their lives on the line to help."
Shifting her gaze towards Tsuru, Ferra continued, "Lady Yamanaka is right to question how exactly resources will help clans protect themselves better. If anyone is incapable of protecting their own land, then they need to seek assistance from those around them who can help." Glancing around the room once more, she let a short silence follow as she considered how to phrase her next words. "Not all clans have a martial focus and some may have a significantly harder time defending themselves. If that's the case, then I don't see why things couldn't be arranged between clans to offer training services or perhaps even armed support in exchange for resources. This way the burden does not fall exclusively on the Imperial Military, nor would it fall on the rest of the clans to support those who need a little more help than the others."
When Lady Arkos had finished speaking, Jora took the opportunity to clear his throat slightly. "Well, if the concept of creating a separate force does not make sense at this time, then perhaps we could instead look to find ways of better supporting or bolstering the current military." Scratching his chin, the Hyuzu leader pondered for a moment. "The idea of Lord Tokugawa to create a trading hub of sorts was generally acceptable to most, so perhaps something similar could be created for the military? There are already numerous training facilities, but Lord Riojin had a valid point. Some locations are harder for the military to support as it takes longer to get troops to those areas. If we constructed more barracks or training grounds in those areas, we could have a reserve force readily available for those who need it the most."
Glancing towards the Tamiyo leader, Jora tilted his head slightly. "This would obviously require funding and, as Lord Tamiyo suggested, we could pool some of our resources together if it is deemed a worthwhile venture. The Hyuzu clan would be willing to dedicate some funds and assistance with building these facilities, along with training for some of the troops if required. Our resources are not nearly as vast as that which Lord Tamiyo has at his disposal, but we would be happy to assist where possible." Another thought came to him and he quickly added, "I imagine this option would be more relevant for those who are currently in higher risk areas, or who have shown a greater need. In those cases, I would imagine most clans in those areas would be a little more inspired to help contribute to the efforts, be it in providing funding themselves, or trading in resources with others who might be able to provide funding should they be unable." Sitting back in his chair, Jora waited to see how the others would respond.
[ An Imperial gathering has been organised, in the city of Kanazawa. Honouring their oath to the crown, the Imperial clans flock to the city where they are generously welcomed by the Uchiha clan - who have the honours of organising the meeting. The Gathering is a special occasion for the Imperial clans to muster together and discuss various topics. Or bring suggestions to the crown. As expected, the event is woven with intrigue from the participants as backdoor deals and alliances have been forged. Rivals plotting to outdo the other or schemes to thwart the plans of others. ]
[A collab between the Akinian Clans ]
- Imperial Akinian Crown, Kiyomi Homura - @Aliceee
- Uchiha Clan, Hirasuke Uchiha - @Oetje
- Hon and Cho Clan, Zakito Hon - @Gerontis
- Tokugawa Clan, Leo Tokugawa - @Oblivion666
- Sarutobi Clan, Ling Sarutobi - @Aliceee
- Tamiyo Dynasty, Takeo Tamiyo - @Gerontis
- Hyuzu Clan, Jora Hyuzu - @ChromeHound
- Yamanaka Clan, Tsuru Yamanaka - @Lesli
- Miyazato Clan, Moru Miyazato - @FrostedCaramel
- Nara Clan, Shikamura Nara, - @ChromeHound
- Omari Clan, Taniya Omari - @conman2163
- Hyuuga Clan, Shiroi Hyuuga - @GlitchyBugger
- Senju Clan, Resu Senju - @Nim
- Riojin Clan, Mitsunari Riojin - @Oblivion666
- Arkos Clan, Ferra Arkos - @ChromeHound
- Hanta Clan, Sora Hanta - @Jessie Targaryen
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Following the conversation, Kiyomi's interest was piqued by the Tokugawa's suggestion. She briefly wondered how many more would flock. Trade and generating more wealth seemed to be matters that all were interested in. If it was only that easy to make different clans and people unite, Kiyomi mused to herself.
"A fine proposition, Lord Tokugawa," Kyiomi spoke up, "I am most interested myself to see how this new center of trade will fare."
Generating a soft silence that echoed her words, Kiyomi would await if there would be another dignitary that was going to speak up.
After listening quietly for the different proposals that have been brought up, Resu had a few thoughts in mind. But when the Empress concluded the topic brought up by the Tokugawa, he rose from his seat "Respected and honoured lords and ladies. As I am sure at least several of you may be aware, the Senju had recently suffered a blow to our resources and farms. It served to show my clan several things. But it also served as a thought that goes further than just the Senju. It served to show overall of what could happen, to all of us, if we do not make sure we are always capable of properly defending ourselves." He took a pause to look around before continuing.
"I wish to propose that we provide further supplies to the Empire, so they will be able to provide further Imperial protection. And it could help in many fronts, not only the clans as the example I already brought up, but also in regions struck by unrest, such as how the Rain province was mentioned to have been, or perform further operations against the zealots. And of course, it would be uncalled for me to propose such a thing and not say that the Senju themselves would be providing resources themselves to help push this agenda forth. I just hope more of you will think of this proposal and see the benefits it can have." Resu finished speaking and sat back down, moving to take a sip from his drink as he waited to hear if anyone would have anything to say about his proposal.
"The Uchiha are sorry for the losses that the Senju have been forced to bear," Hirasuke of the Uchiha began, "and to show our support, we will be willing to provide some financial aid. It won't allow those harmed to get all that they lost back. But, hopefully, it will provide some ailment."
Offering a small bow, Hirasuke wasn't done yet.
"But I will state that I don't agree with Master Senju's words. It is true that some clans don't have the same means to protect their subjects as well as others. And while the Uchiha is faithful to her Majesty and this realm, I don't find it entirely fair what Master Senju states. The Uchiha clan has been dutiful in providing for the Empire as guaranteeing the security of her people. Because one clan failed to do so, I don't see why the Uchiha should bear more burden."
The next to respond was Zakito. The leader of the Hon clan slightly frowned as the Senju suggested that clans should provide more. "Providing more resources is certainly noble and could benefit the Empire. However," Zakito paused for a mere second, "just throwing more resources at the Empire won't make it able to defend itself better. Resources are one thing but manpower will be also required if you desire more protection, Master Senju. And you have to keep in mind that your subjects won't be that thrilled either if folk from other clans start to arrive. The process isn't that simple or easy. Neither from a military or economical perspective."
Zakito wondered briefly how many would speak up. For this was a proposition that could harm or benefit certain clans.
"I think your proposition requires more work, Master Senju. For I think that it won't help as much as you imagine."
"But we could try to pool some resources together," Takeo of the Tamiyo said, waiting a second after Zakito had finished. "If we all pool some resources together and volunteer some troops then who knows? Maybe if it pleases her Majesty, we could try to fund another large military unit?"
Shirori quietly observed the proposition and subsequent oppositions to it, and she found herself agreeing with what the others were saying about it. "I would echo the opinions of the Hon and Uchiha, as admirable as the idea itself is. But I would like to second Lord Tamiyo's addition, collectively funding another military force would be beneficial to all denizens of the Empire, and could prove to help with relations, perhaps assuaging previous animosity one clan may hold for another to some degree."
Moru shifted uncomfortably in his seat as the Senju spoke of giving yet more to the Empire. While he listened to the other large clans in attendance quickly jump at the idea and the obvious gaining of favor it would curry them, Moru simply sighed.
"Your Majesty, though the proposition from the Senju has merit, it is not always possible for the smallest of clans to contribute manpower, resources, or coin to such endeavors. Perhaps if an alternative way for the smaller clans to contribute could be looked into, it would allow us to do as much as the largest among us while not financially crippling ourselves." he bowed his head as he relinquished the floor.
Tsuru frowned upon hearing the Senju with their topic. Holding the mug, which contained some warm tea, the Yamanaka took a careful sip to not burn her mouth. Lowering the mug, she waited for the Miyazato emissary to be done.
"I fear that I may be wrong but how is this a new topic? We already provide supplies to the Empire. I am sorry for the loss that the Senju clan suffered but it seems like this is a matter that should have been resolved by their own forces," Tsuru said, her tone polite but the phrasing giving away the slight irritation, "The unrest is being tackled in the Rain? The Imperial military has responded swiftly. To provide just more supplies, I dare say that won't just solve the issues. As for a new military unit? I don't see the need for that either. Expanding the military is one thing but what is entirely wrong with the current cohorts and formations that exist already?"
Resu waited patiently as he heard several of the responses that were expressed. None of the voiced ones expressed positivity towards his proposal, which was disappointing, but not entirely unexpected. The Uchiha offered to provide some financial aid, which made Resu turn to Hirasuke first "The offer of financial aid is appreciated, and will be considered." He said with a nod towards the Uchiha, before looking around the table "Several good notes have been brought up. It was a proposal to help expand the operations, and indeed, resources alone are not enough. And I do not believe my proposal ever required everyone to bring forth the exact same as all others, merely to provide more resources." Resu briefly glanced towards the Miyazato representative.
"So, with the opinions voiced, I believe it would be sufficient to say that it seems that this proposal certainly needs to be fleshed out and reconsidered if it is even needed. I personally still believe it will be more beneficial to do so, even if it won't be in only resources, as initially suggested. If anyone would still be interested in coming up with a better idea of how to pursue this proposal of mine, I am certainly open to discussing it further." Resu finished speaking once more and sat back down.
The young man was truly a bit confused by the topic at hand. Particularly when the motion of forming a new military unit was tossed out. Wasn't that very similar to the proposal of a coalition that had been shot down before? The Hanta stood, taking a moment to look around the room for a few moments and collect his thoughts. "Perhaps, we as Akinians should be using our clan's resources to not only protect and help our owns, but those of our neighbors as well. The way I see it, Master Senju has a point. What happened to the Senju is a firm reminder of what could truly happen to any of us." The Hanta said, looking around at the others in the room. "The Hanta have long believed that there is strength in unity, and so we agree with the proposal, and some of these excellent notes commented on the proposal. After all, we are all akinians here, no? If one of us hurts, so do the rest." He said, giving a long look towards the Senju representative. Deciding that perhaps after the meeting has ended, he should strike up a dialogue with that man. Discuss the proposal a bit further, and perhaps see how amicable he might be to one sitting on the Hanta's mind.
The small speech that the Hanta leader gave, first received a response from Zakito. "I would like to remind the Hanta that his logic is quite skewed," Zakito said, his tone calm yet a certain threat seemed to linger with the Hon's phrasing. "You state that this could happen to any of us? So far I see, I highly doubt that. The Sarutobi had to face bigger odds and they responded right away. My kin came to their aid the moment that the threat was there. Not reacting when the smoke was dwindling and the cries of the victims could be heard. The Senju brought this upon themselves."
Not letting his annoyance get to him, Zakito continued. "So your proposal? About Akinians together? I see little use in it. Certainly if one clan's suffering is acknowledged more than the other. Not to mention," Zakito would proceed with a gesture to those in the room, "you speak of using resources? Very well. Then I gladly await the Hanta to pay more taxations and resources so that her Majesty can be provided to expand the Imperial Akinian military. For the Akinian cause, Akino Victor, right Lord Hanta?"
The following to speak up was Tsuru of the Yamanaka. "If we are all Akinians, needing to use resources to help each other then I wonder why not more have stepped up to help the likes of the Omari. Or as Lord Hon pointed out, when the Sarutobi were actively dealing with a threat."
Frowning slightly, Tsuru waited a mere second before she continued on. "And I have yet to hear answers on my questions, Lord Hanta. What would be achieved with throwing more resources at the problem. Are we going to bribe the enemy with wealth? Wood and linen?"
Not needing an answer, Tsuru leaned back in her seat. "All I hear is that we need to bring up more resources. An easy task for the likes of those who have enough land and people, such as the Senju and Hanta. But not having the willpower to solve their issues without the guidance of others, it seems."
After his attempt at concluding the topic, the Hanta representative decided to speak up and show his support. Poor timing in Resu's opinion, but the Hanta tried pushing for something else. Which led to some remarks from the Hon and Yamanaka, but ones that even Resu felt were deserved, considering the attempted push at continuing the topic "I believe you have missed the part where I mentioned any interested parties can continue to discuss this proposal at a later point, mister Hanta. The opinions expressed showed well that the proposal needs to be fleshed out and thought on further. The show of support for the idea is nice, but as I have noted thrice by now, any further discussions of this topic should be continued after the meeting. No need to bother those who already expressed their opinions by pushing the topic further." Resu said, looking at the Hanta, shaking his head at the poor timing of the representative.
The next man to voice himself would be none other than Leo Tokugawa who kept a neutral facial expression about himself as he looked at Resu. "You have my condolences for what has happened to your people. I can offer a bit of resources to help rebuild your farms, yet I have to agree with several of the Lords and Lady that your plan does indeed need to be thought through a bit more. I also recommend not admitting defeat when a few say no. If a few people saying no made all the changes in the world, half of us probably wouldn't be here. I agree it needs to be fleshed out better, yet do try to stand your ground better. We all struggle, hell look at Master Riojin. Defended Amegakure with hardly any back up until the final event that transpired. Was it costly? One hundred percent, yet the difference between Amegakure and your farms is simple. He fought and defended thousands of lives. You? You ask for more security and us all to chip in when you failed to defend a few farms. Don't take my words as looking down or spitting on your suggestion. What I suggest is before asking the military to fix your issues, try using your own first." Leo said then looked between the Hyuuga and Hanta Representatives.
Leo rubbed his forehead a bit as he exhaled a bit. "Now a new unit sounds lovely on paper, yet when executing it to be a force that goes to others borders? That's where it falls down a bit. No one likes a force just waltzing in on their lands and claiming they are there to help. It creates more tension and it certainly doesn't help improve relations. Mostly when the last force to move onto someone, they shockingly became someone's vassal. I suggest building relations through messages and or visiting each other. Then like Lord Hon did when Sarutobi needed help. Then come to their aid." Leo then sat back in his chair and raised his drink and took a long sip from it.
When he was sure Lord Tokugawa was done, even though he wasn't sure if he was complimented while he also lectured someone else. Mitsunari would clear his throat. "I would…. suggest putting your men on more alert. Then if the situation continues, maybe then request the Imperial Military." Mitsunari said as he looked around the room. "As for the new force suggestion, it sounds like it has its promises. Although I do recommend maybe having an area for them to be stationed. Then when help is needed they can then act."
"Is it not the duty of the clans of the Empire to provide defense for our own peoples?" Lady Omari asked at the end of the conversation. "You speak boldly of the need for us to provide for the common defense of the realm, but where is a Hanta force mustering to assist the Empire in the east?" Crossing her arms the Omari woman shook her head. "Aside from that, it is folly to ask the smaller clans to give anymore then they already do. The necessary components to form an army cannot be magicked out of thin air. I am all for the protection of the Empire, but I cannot agree with this proposal."
Calmly sipping his tea, Shikamura Nara kept a keen eye on those present as things appeared to be heating up. The proposal from the Senju had been shot down rather quickly by several representatives, but the rest hadn't even had a chance to speak before Resu had withdrawn it. With the Hanta now apparently under fire as well, Shikamura pondered something for a moment. Waiting for Lady Omari to finish speaking, he glanced around for a moment before setting down his tea. "As some of the others have already done, the Nara clan extends their deepest sympathies to the Senju clan for that which they have suffered." Taking a moment's pause, Shikamura nodded politely towards Resu before looking aroud. "We would, however, have to agree that there are some flaws to the proposal that has been made. If it would please the Senju, the Nara clan would be happy to offer their assistance wherever we can. Be it medicine or advice, we would be honoured to discuss outside this meeting how we may support you to regain that which you've lost."
With that completed, Shikamura scratched his chin as if contemplating his next words. "As for the suggestion to create a new force… I'm afraid there are more questions than answers when it comes to this." Shrugging, the Nara leaned back in his chair. "If this force acts outside of the Imperial Military, then who do they report to? How are their actions monitored? Who is responsible for funding it?" Waving a hand somewhat dismissively, Shikamura sighed. "I also imagine Lord Tokugawa is rather correct that there will be quite some tension if clans with different beliefs and cultures begin traveling through each other's lands in force. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would be irresponsible for us to put forward such a proposal without considering all of the variables first."
Ferra found herself deeply focused on the meeting as it progressed. The Empress had provided some great news to the Arkos clan in granting them a fiefdom. This was an opportunity for their clan to finally prove themselves and earn more prestige within the Empire. it was an opportunity she did not intend to waste. When talk shifted to the Senju asking for clans to give more, Ferra narrowed her eyes ever so slightly. While she had already lobbied for clans to give more in order to try and earn a better place for themselves, she did not believe in simply providing charity to those who should have been able to look after themselves. Before she could voice her thoughts on the matter, however, the Hanta spoke up and threw things into a fervor. Glancing down at her drink, Ferra tried to gather her thoughts. She could feel her frustration growing as the participants spoke, arguing one way or the other. She had her own beliefs about a separate force, but this suggestion was different from the one she had supported during the previous Taika meeting. Looking up towards the Hanta and then around at the others, Ferra steeled her nerves. "It would appear that the larger issue at hand is that several clans are in need of greater protection. Whether it is due to a lack of preparedness or perhaps a lack of resources or training, the current events have shown that some are more vulnerable than others."
Pausing, the Arkos leader glanced towards Zakito. "I would have to agree with Lord Hon in that resources should not be wasted on simply trying to help out one clan or another. If resources are going to be spent, then it should be towards the betterment of the Empire as a whole. If a clan feels they are not capable of protecting themselves, then that's what friends are for. Just as the Hon assisted the Sarutobi in their time of need, that is how we can help each other. When the Housha were being decimated in Amegakure, many from different clans came in to help assist in repelling the invaders and trying to minimize the damage as much as possible. No amount of money would have made a difference if not for the people who put their lives on the line to help."
Shifting her gaze towards Tsuru, Ferra continued, "Lady Yamanaka is right to question how exactly resources will help clans protect themselves better. If anyone is incapable of protecting their own land, then they need to seek assistance from those around them who can help." Glancing around the room once more, she let a short silence follow as she considered how to phrase her next words. "Not all clans have a martial focus and some may have a significantly harder time defending themselves. If that's the case, then I don't see why things couldn't be arranged between clans to offer training services or perhaps even armed support in exchange for resources. This way the burden does not fall exclusively on the Imperial Military, nor would it fall on the rest of the clans to support those who need a little more help than the others."
When Lady Arkos had finished speaking, Jora took the opportunity to clear his throat slightly. "Well, if the concept of creating a separate force does not make sense at this time, then perhaps we could instead look to find ways of better supporting or bolstering the current military." Scratching his chin, the Hyuzu leader pondered for a moment. "The idea of Lord Tokugawa to create a trading hub of sorts was generally acceptable to most, so perhaps something similar could be created for the military? There are already numerous training facilities, but Lord Riojin had a valid point. Some locations are harder for the military to support as it takes longer to get troops to those areas. If we constructed more barracks or training grounds in those areas, we could have a reserve force readily available for those who need it the most."
Glancing towards the Tamiyo leader, Jora tilted his head slightly. "This would obviously require funding and, as Lord Tamiyo suggested, we could pool some of our resources together if it is deemed a worthwhile venture. The Hyuzu clan would be willing to dedicate some funds and assistance with building these facilities, along with training for some of the troops if required. Our resources are not nearly as vast as that which Lord Tamiyo has at his disposal, but we would be happy to assist where possible." Another thought came to him and he quickly added, "I imagine this option would be more relevant for those who are currently in higher risk areas, or who have shown a greater need. In those cases, I would imagine most clans in those areas would be a little more inspired to help contribute to the efforts, be it in providing funding themselves, or trading in resources with others who might be able to provide funding should they be unable." Sitting back in his chair, Jora waited to see how the others would respond.
There had been one person that had been silent, watching and listening to others. But as the meeting progressed, Ling of the Sarutobi started to become slowly irritated at the matters. When the Hanta spoke up and tried to use the poor excuse that they were all Akinians, thus had to support such an idea, Ling remained silent. For he was certain how such an idea would land with his people and clans. The problem wasn't just trust but also the history.
Other clans, however, responded and Ling gave a subtle nod towards Lord Hon.
The meeting continued as questions arose if the idea to create an all-out clan force was going to be wise, not to mention resources. Something that made Ling frown slightly, as he found it foolish. It was if the Imperial military wasn't already a thing.
"If I may speak," Ling said, his voice stern, "the fact is and remains that we are responsible for our people's protection. It is true that not all clans are capable of fending off a large force, if they may arrive with malicious intent. Neighbours that are allied and willing to bleed for you are not a foreign concept to us. Certainly not to those who have fought together or against each other in the past."
Pausing, Ling wanted to scoff and call out some other stuff. There was a moment that he wanted to condemn all this new planning, out of spite and dislike for some. Knowing fully well that he had a task and Sarutobi lives depended on him, Ling instead continued in Chonobi,
"The Scyldings are willing to provide some training. That is if certain requirements are met. For it has become clear that certain events are being blatantly used to advance agendas, without any true aid to those who have suffered. For that, your Majesty," Ling lowered his head as he addressed the young monarch, "the Sarutobi have been ever faithful to you. We are proud to bleed and fight for you. In your name, we will offer the clans that are too weak some military assistance in form of training. As far I am aware, there are too few who can dare to step up to some of our rangers. But if we are to step out to once more help others, that haven't cared for our hurts, then I want to request the following," Ling paused for a second as he didn't glance to see what the reaction would be of other clans, for the majority wouldn't likely be able to understand what he was saying anyways, "that the mistreatment in Ardara is set right. While faithful and loyal to your rule, the Scyldings desire to be treated as more than a stepping stone. Than as second-rate citizens. With the permission of the Scylding clans, I was requested to humbly request your permission to see a certain kind of compensation for our deeds in the past."
Hastily, someone at the head of the formation stood up. "With all respect, your Majesty," Takeo managed to conjure a quick and warm smile, "while I respect the diversity of clans, would you or anyone else be so willing to translate that beautiful piece of monologue? For the non-initiated here," Takeo gestured before he sat down.
"I may understand that Taika isn't spoken in all parts of the Empire, I am hoping that we can continue to communicate in a way that we all understand. Unless we want to continue this exchange in Yakimara. Then I would be most delighted to show my progress, to you, your Majesty, and our good Yakimara friends."
The man winced slightly as he was hit hard with the responses. Clearly, he still had more ground to learn before he would be able to hold his own. However, rather than backing down from his proposal under fire, the Hanta decided that it might be better to keep going. He nodded along with some of the comments, and the ones aimed at him he figured better to not respond. There was no ground to be gained by firing back and arguing, though when he heard the Hyuzu's suggestion on the matter, the Hanta felt like an option had been presented that would have better success than his own. "I find myself in agreement with Lord Hyuzu's suggestion. To that end, the Hanta would gladly contribute our share to helping with this key expansion." The man said calmly, knowing that he was accepting a defeat to some degree, though the option presented by the Hyuzu certainly held promise for helping those who might need it. "Certainly, this proposal also seems like it can help even those smaller clans who may not be able to contribute." He said, opting not to dignify the Omari's comment with a response. Given the presence of a Hanta unit currently deployed to the East, he felt it was a bit strange of a comment.
The reaction to Shirori slipping in the idea of a joint force between the clans told a fair amount, mostly concern and exaggerated fears of border friction, criticism of just using more resources and turning the words of one against themselves.
And so, Shirori rose from her seat. "Lord Riojin, Lord Hyuzu, your input on the idea of an additional force is appreciated greatly. Though, I feel if Lord Tokugawa is going to bring that idea up, it is only proper to allow for the full pitch to be made so that it's not mischaracterized and compared to previous inter-clan issues." Her attention would shift to the Empress.
"This is why I would like to explain this proposal directly to the Empress herself, those of the Taikan clans may already know the overall idea, many of whom spoke it down at a previous meeting on the respectful notion that you are already telling the Empire everything you know, which I do hope is in fact the truth." There would be a quiet pause for a second as Shirori's gaze swept the room.
"We proposed a joint unit, composed of all clans present, to specifically handle and combat the zealot insurgency that has been creeping into our lands and playing people against one another. There have already been incidents incited by these zealots whom have wormed their way into our circles, admittedly I am not at liberty to say whom exactly, in respect of hoping they will speak freely of their troubles with the aforementioned invaders. We suggested collation of all the knowledge that is currently available on what they do, how they do it and what signifying features we can search for when trying to root them out, any additional information gained from the warfront in the East could be relayed back to us in order to further improve our methods. And then forming a collective force from members of our own clans, properly vetted to ensure there are none who share sympathies with the zealots, and co-ordinate ourselves in order to accurately, safely and quickly handle any issues related to the zealots that plague us."
"The secondary goal of this force, would be to understand one another's cultures and foster better collaboration and relations between clans, and a better understanding of our linguistic differences to avoid miscommunication in a case where translation is needed." Shirori would pause again to sip her drink, mentally thanking Lord Tamiyo for the initial call out of the Sarutobi Lord's shift in tongues.
[/color=red]"Because communication and deployment of forces at long distances would be difficult, bases within or near our respective capitals to train and supply our forces as has been suggested here today. These bases would be managed by either the head of the clan or a general selected by them in each of our lands, so that we have Tokugawans handling Tokugawan zealot activity, so on and so forth to maintain a form of independence and only supplementing the forces of those who cannot muster such a unit if absolutely necessary. The intent is for this force to ultimately answer to the Empress herself, as there's no higher authority in all of the Empire, that way her judgement is delivered properly to those who wish ill will against any citizen within our lands. Of course, input from everyone present would be more than welcome."[/color]
It remained silent for a moment, as the words of the Hyuuga dignitary echoed through the spacious hall. However, it wouldn't stay quiet.
"Master Sarutobi, requested that his people would be compensated for the dreadful events they were forced to endure, Lord Tamiyo," Zakito said, doubting that there would be many present who were going to oppose that.
"They further offer to train those who are in need for martial prowess, seeing that Scylding rangers are nearly unmatched."
Done translating, Zakito rose up slowly as he slightly nodded towards the Hyuuga representative. "Bonding through serving together. I can vouch that is indeed something that happens. For I know out of firsthand experience what it is like." Zakito shifted his gaze to Hirasuke Uchiha, "I didn't trust or like the Second Hokage. Lord Second was an Uchiha. He was in my opinion a direct threat to all that I held dear. To all beliefs that I grew up with. But as I served underneath his command, I learned to respect him for the man that he was. To love him for the leader that he was. If I was given the chance now? I would gladly sacrifice my own life to ensure that he could continue on to guide us for a while longer."
Zakito then shifted his gaze at Kiyomi as he made a subtle bow with his head. "Same ironically goes for the Lord Fourth, your Majesty. While he was a tutor to you, he was one that I could call my brother. We didn't go along, at first. We clashed and disagreed, almost for the sake of just disagreeing with another. But through hardship, bloodshed and the horrible crucible of war? We had each other's back. I venture alone to the dark pits of Hella for him."
Placing his hands at his back, Zakito let his sight wander over those present.
"And it is true. These two examples are just two out of countless similar experiences as bonds. It allowed me to learn, to understand and respect other clans and their cultures. Their habits and beliefs. To know that there isn't anything wrong with diversity. However," Zakito's tone gained a sharper tone. One that seemed less positive.
"I oppose this notion of a newly formed organisation. I understand its noble goals and what it tries to achieve. But I have yet to hear an answer to the questions that were asked before." He paused, holding the attention tight.
"First, the idea to have a military unit soley obey the crown is a bad idea. I am unsure how many of you all served but such a command structure is doomed to fail. A situation in the field often requires a swift response. While her Majesty is far from a novice in the art of warfare, she is still being groomed by competent experts. By the time that a request comes at her doorstep, the situation will have changed drastically. The enemy will have a constant advantage while this new force is lingering five commands behind. Furthermore," Zakito continued, taking a second to calmly get some a breather, "I recognise that it is an advantage that the costs will be carried by the clans. But how will it be decided that one clan has paid enough? And what if a clan prefers their own method? I foresee that traditional forces that have operated for centuries will collide repeatedly with such a new organisation."
Frowning, Zakito kept his gaze wandering over those present.
"The idea to also further establish extra camps and stations to garrison, train and equip those who serve in this new organisation will become costly. Not to mention, why even investing in such an endeavour? Aye, it is true that the Zealots have managed to infiltrate and cause damage from within as without. It has appeared several times that they outsmarted the Imperial military. But there are many more operations where the zealots were foiled because of the competent operatives and personnel in the Imperial military. The Imperial Military that we all are already supposed to support. The Imperial military that has already training camps and garrisons, coordinating and operating alongside local clans and people. It may have gone unnoticed by many but without the flexibility and competence of the Imperial military, we would have a much more dire situation at hand."
Inhaling softly, Zakito let his words echo through the hall. He then gestured slowly towards the direction of the Empress.
"The Imperial military does all that is being suggested that this new force should achieve. They are loyal and diligent to serve her Majesty. They are comprised of all the clans that provide willing men and women, that are being trained to the best of knowledge. And during their services, a soldier or shinobi of the Imperial military won't just see the confines of their own clan's heartlands. They will learn to work together as one unit," Zakito leaned forward slightly, placing a hand firmly on the table - the motion creating a harsh sound, to emphasise his points that also followed.
"They fight as one. They eat as one. And much like I have done with the Lord Second or Lord Fourth? They will be ready to die as one. Through that bond? You will cultivate the very same without creating another entity that is similar. If you lords, ladies and masters desire to see such matters to be done? Then I firmly implore that you direct support to the already existing Imperial military. Not to create a mere reflection, with just pooling from the clans."
Done with his response, Zakito would sit down.
Although Resu had been reluctant to speak up since numerous people around the table have 'given their advice and suggestions' to the Senju, the rise of a topic he had heard of before caught his attention. That joint unit that Osafumi had told him about. Once more, it was the Hyuuga that suggested it, and quickly after it was suggested, Lord Hon spoke against it in a very detailed and well-reasoned way as to why it would be redundant. Resu stood up before beginning to speak as well "I agree with Lord Hon regarding the topic of the joint unit. I may have suggested collecting more resources for the imperial army myself, but to create a whole new unit, or army, such as that? That is a whole level much higher than need be at all. And as ironic as it may sound, but I will have to mirror what several others have mentioned before regarding my own suggestion. You say that the force in each area will be under the eyes of whoever owns the land. Why not just use the existing forces? And as an empire, we already share information of what occurs, of sightings and other occurrences."
"I cannot speak about the bonds that are formed in military service as Lord Hon have, but I can speak as someone who observed them from the side. They are, without a doubt, significant and strong. I have known several brothers in arms that have told me they will die for one another. That is how strong their bond is. But the same bond can likely be formed in the existing army. And not just that, the Imperial army is already allowing members of different cultures to bond. Yakimara, Chonobi and Taika are all used, and this in turn allows our troops, that come from different backgrounds, to find a common ground in the Imperial army. That should already be seen as a path growing a bond between members of the clans, not a new unit." Resu said, hoping that he was accurate enough regarding this.
He looked around the table for a moment, understanding well how well he must be appearing as right now, before continuing "It is also, from what I know, the exact same proposal as was suggested in the meeting you have mentioned, and even back then, it was rejected, when all the members were of the same culture. Without any change to your suggestion at all, I cannot see any benefit at all to the creation of this joint unit, as you propose. It would be wiser to focus on the existing army than try to form a new one, for which there is no good reason I can think of at present time."
Hirasuke watched and listened as the topic started to steer away from the initial suggestion of the Senju. There were some thoughts and questions that moved through Uchiha's mind. Sadly, there was no way yet for him to gain definite answers without playing the fickle game of politics along with the other clan leaders and representatives.
Frowning as the Senju decided to side with the Hon, Hirasuke couldn't really say that he was pleased with such an outcome. Aside from Hirasuke disappointment to see such a person from a prestigious Taika heritage side with a mere Hon, Hirasuke had another reason to dislike the current development.
"It may be indeed that this proposed unit lacks the foundation and cohesion that we can find in the Imperial military. But I do think that we are underestimating its potential," Hirasuke began, a smile crossing his lips, "I may not have an esteemed military career as some here enjoy. No offense, Lord Hon, but I think that the point of this unit may also be to promote cooperation. Whereas the Imperial military already does so, we could place the emphasis larger with this proposed unit. In fact, I foresee that we could have our kin become more acquainted with both a military career as learning how to cooperate with other clans as cultures."
Enlisting a pause, Hirasuke trained his sight on the Empress. Slowly and respectfully, Hirasuke bowed his head.
"Your Majesty, I humbly request you to take this proposal into consideration. For have you not also deemed it necessary to organise a new military unit? I believe their names are the Guardians. And if I am not mistaken, they are formally not even part of the Imperial military but are underneath your direct control. You could perhaps see this as a mere extension and branches of Guardians, but then managed by your loyal and noble subjects."
"I believe additionally we are pouncing on the proposal so fresh of the heels of the last one that we have failed to ask a crucial question. What is the proposed size of this new unit? Small enough and it may have no effect on existing logistics. It would be a shame to see it dismissed off handedly without further thought." Drumming her fingers along the table, the Omari representative spoke further. "There is some merit in purposefully trained forces used in counter insurgent methods. They may even have a broader use if prepared properly."
Right as Lady Omari finished, another lady within the hall spoke up. Tsuru of the Yamanaka crossed her arms. "I do believe that regardless of the size, that we already have various military units within the Imperial military that can combat hostile operatives or other threats. Both in a conventional as unorthodox fashion."
Finishing her sentence, Tsuru shot a glance at the Uchiha dignitary.
"Master Uchiha, you speak of the fact that her Majesty created the Guardians. And this is aimed to reflect it? The fact is that these Guardians have been established in a center point where her Majesty has fast control or contact with them. You may also misjudge their purpose. They are to protect the Empress and her, hopefully, future family. Not to just prounce around to do the bidding of a local clan lord or lordling," Tsuru's tone became even sharper as she slightly raised her chin.
"While this new unit may sound good and beneficial, I only predict chaos and disturbance. Some of you declared and agreed that not every clan has the martial expertise to deal with the likes of the Zealots. And now you want to allow them to manage a unit that they have no experience with? It is the equivalent of giving a toddler a spear, hoping it won't hurt itself or those around him."
Restraining the need to scoff and say something in Yakimara, Tsuru would shake her head just instead.
"Even now, some of you are fickling back and forth. How is this unit supposed to work better than what we already have at our disposal when some of you can't make up a clear mind now? Let alone not able to manage your coffers or clan forces."
Turning to the Empress, Tsuru would flash a wry smile.
"Forgive me. But rather than spending resources on a project that is doomed to fail miserably, your Majesty, I would like to offer both supplies and manpower to the Royal Navy. It has come to my attention that some loyal subordinates of the realm have managed to acquire some nice vessels from the North."
Patiently, Kiyomi waited and listened. Enjoying her beverage, she would take in what was being said. The new topic had sparked some curiosity but she wasn't convinced right away. There were certain issues and matters that made Kiyomi waver about giving her blessing to this new sort of force. Not to mention that other prominent and present people started to object.
"Interesting turn of events," Kiyomi stated as she leaned back in her seat. Her attention shifted to the dignitary of the Senju clan. "I will approve that you or any of your kin can bring the matter once you feel that you've fleshed it out, Master Senju."
Of course, there rested the case with the Sarutobi. For a moment, Kiyomi considered responding in kind - using the Chonobi language. But she opted to react as if the Sarutobi dignitary had used Taika.
"Of course, Master Sarutobi. I will lend some of my Sworn Swords to oversee that any important Sarutobi artifacts will be removed from Keishi and returned to their proper place. Furthermore, I will see to it that the Sarutobi clans shall receive a proper reward for their loyalty and services."
Turning her attention to the others, Kiyomi folded her hands together. A silence echoed for a few seconds as she considered what would be wise. But if anything, Kiyomi would have loved to see more try to stand up or against this new topic. Aside from those that were quick to subdue to the words of others.
"I start to gain the impression that this wasn't the work of a sole clan or mind," Kiyomi glanced at the Hanta heir, her eyebrows slightly perking up, "though I find it rather unorthodox to use the topic of Master Senju to drive one's agenda to the table. Anyhow, I do agree that this new force seems a bit," Kiyomi halted as she made a vague gesture, "redundant, if anything. The Imperial military already provides what you are suggesting for this new force, Master Hyuuga."
Lowering her hand, Kiyomi wondered briefly how many of them had been against this or supporting this motion. A clear detail regarding the meeting between the Taika clans had been rather obscure and vague.
"However, I can respect those who are willing to stand by their point. Master Hyuuga, you shall be allowed to form this new unit. Those who agreed to this before shall pay for it, one way or another. Both during and before this meeting," Kiyomi stated, her tone growing a tad more stern, "this force shall be underneath the command of the Hyuuga clan and operate in the heartlands of clans that agreed to it before and during this meeting. Nowhere else."
Letting her words sink in, Kiyomi continued.
"I expect results Master Hyuuga. For if there are none, this force will be absorbed into the Imperial military, into existing units than to remain an independent force outside of it. If by some reason it will bear pleasant results that convince me to keep it alive? Then I will see to it that the crown shall share a burden of paying for it and perhaps discussing for future alterations, that benefit the realm as a whole."
With the meeting coming to an end, the dignitaries would be guided to their lodges. There they would be served by the Uchiha, allowing the dignitaries to rest out until they would be guided back to the next event, to the collective hall. Only this time seemingly more fitting for a time of lounging and celebrating together - or preparing backdoor deals and more intimate diplomatic exchanges.
Other clans, however, responded and Ling gave a subtle nod towards Lord Hon.
The meeting continued as questions arose if the idea to create an all-out clan force was going to be wise, not to mention resources. Something that made Ling frown slightly, as he found it foolish. It was if the Imperial military wasn't already a thing.
"If I may speak," Ling said, his voice stern, "the fact is and remains that we are responsible for our people's protection. It is true that not all clans are capable of fending off a large force, if they may arrive with malicious intent. Neighbours that are allied and willing to bleed for you are not a foreign concept to us. Certainly not to those who have fought together or against each other in the past."
Pausing, Ling wanted to scoff and call out some other stuff. There was a moment that he wanted to condemn all this new planning, out of spite and dislike for some. Knowing fully well that he had a task and Sarutobi lives depended on him, Ling instead continued in Chonobi,
"The Scyldings are willing to provide some training. That is if certain requirements are met. For it has become clear that certain events are being blatantly used to advance agendas, without any true aid to those who have suffered. For that, your Majesty," Ling lowered his head as he addressed the young monarch, "the Sarutobi have been ever faithful to you. We are proud to bleed and fight for you. In your name, we will offer the clans that are too weak some military assistance in form of training. As far I am aware, there are too few who can dare to step up to some of our rangers. But if we are to step out to once more help others, that haven't cared for our hurts, then I want to request the following," Ling paused for a second as he didn't glance to see what the reaction would be of other clans, for the majority wouldn't likely be able to understand what he was saying anyways, "that the mistreatment in Ardara is set right. While faithful and loyal to your rule, the Scyldings desire to be treated as more than a stepping stone. Than as second-rate citizens. With the permission of the Scylding clans, I was requested to humbly request your permission to see a certain kind of compensation for our deeds in the past."
Hastily, someone at the head of the formation stood up. "With all respect, your Majesty," Takeo managed to conjure a quick and warm smile, "while I respect the diversity of clans, would you or anyone else be so willing to translate that beautiful piece of monologue? For the non-initiated here," Takeo gestured before he sat down.
"I may understand that Taika isn't spoken in all parts of the Empire, I am hoping that we can continue to communicate in a way that we all understand. Unless we want to continue this exchange in Yakimara. Then I would be most delighted to show my progress, to you, your Majesty, and our good Yakimara friends."
The man winced slightly as he was hit hard with the responses. Clearly, he still had more ground to learn before he would be able to hold his own. However, rather than backing down from his proposal under fire, the Hanta decided that it might be better to keep going. He nodded along with some of the comments, and the ones aimed at him he figured better to not respond. There was no ground to be gained by firing back and arguing, though when he heard the Hyuzu's suggestion on the matter, the Hanta felt like an option had been presented that would have better success than his own. "I find myself in agreement with Lord Hyuzu's suggestion. To that end, the Hanta would gladly contribute our share to helping with this key expansion." The man said calmly, knowing that he was accepting a defeat to some degree, though the option presented by the Hyuzu certainly held promise for helping those who might need it. "Certainly, this proposal also seems like it can help even those smaller clans who may not be able to contribute." He said, opting not to dignify the Omari's comment with a response. Given the presence of a Hanta unit currently deployed to the East, he felt it was a bit strange of a comment.
The reaction to Shirori slipping in the idea of a joint force between the clans told a fair amount, mostly concern and exaggerated fears of border friction, criticism of just using more resources and turning the words of one against themselves.
And so, Shirori rose from her seat. "Lord Riojin, Lord Hyuzu, your input on the idea of an additional force is appreciated greatly. Though, I feel if Lord Tokugawa is going to bring that idea up, it is only proper to allow for the full pitch to be made so that it's not mischaracterized and compared to previous inter-clan issues." Her attention would shift to the Empress.
"This is why I would like to explain this proposal directly to the Empress herself, those of the Taikan clans may already know the overall idea, many of whom spoke it down at a previous meeting on the respectful notion that you are already telling the Empire everything you know, which I do hope is in fact the truth." There would be a quiet pause for a second as Shirori's gaze swept the room.
"We proposed a joint unit, composed of all clans present, to specifically handle and combat the zealot insurgency that has been creeping into our lands and playing people against one another. There have already been incidents incited by these zealots whom have wormed their way into our circles, admittedly I am not at liberty to say whom exactly, in respect of hoping they will speak freely of their troubles with the aforementioned invaders. We suggested collation of all the knowledge that is currently available on what they do, how they do it and what signifying features we can search for when trying to root them out, any additional information gained from the warfront in the East could be relayed back to us in order to further improve our methods. And then forming a collective force from members of our own clans, properly vetted to ensure there are none who share sympathies with the zealots, and co-ordinate ourselves in order to accurately, safely and quickly handle any issues related to the zealots that plague us."
"The secondary goal of this force, would be to understand one another's cultures and foster better collaboration and relations between clans, and a better understanding of our linguistic differences to avoid miscommunication in a case where translation is needed." Shirori would pause again to sip her drink, mentally thanking Lord Tamiyo for the initial call out of the Sarutobi Lord's shift in tongues.
[/color=red]"Because communication and deployment of forces at long distances would be difficult, bases within or near our respective capitals to train and supply our forces as has been suggested here today. These bases would be managed by either the head of the clan or a general selected by them in each of our lands, so that we have Tokugawans handling Tokugawan zealot activity, so on and so forth to maintain a form of independence and only supplementing the forces of those who cannot muster such a unit if absolutely necessary. The intent is for this force to ultimately answer to the Empress herself, as there's no higher authority in all of the Empire, that way her judgement is delivered properly to those who wish ill will against any citizen within our lands. Of course, input from everyone present would be more than welcome."[/color]
It remained silent for a moment, as the words of the Hyuuga dignitary echoed through the spacious hall. However, it wouldn't stay quiet.
"Master Sarutobi, requested that his people would be compensated for the dreadful events they were forced to endure, Lord Tamiyo," Zakito said, doubting that there would be many present who were going to oppose that.
"They further offer to train those who are in need for martial prowess, seeing that Scylding rangers are nearly unmatched."
Done translating, Zakito rose up slowly as he slightly nodded towards the Hyuuga representative. "Bonding through serving together. I can vouch that is indeed something that happens. For I know out of firsthand experience what it is like." Zakito shifted his gaze to Hirasuke Uchiha, "I didn't trust or like the Second Hokage. Lord Second was an Uchiha. He was in my opinion a direct threat to all that I held dear. To all beliefs that I grew up with. But as I served underneath his command, I learned to respect him for the man that he was. To love him for the leader that he was. If I was given the chance now? I would gladly sacrifice my own life to ensure that he could continue on to guide us for a while longer."
Zakito then shifted his gaze at Kiyomi as he made a subtle bow with his head. "Same ironically goes for the Lord Fourth, your Majesty. While he was a tutor to you, he was one that I could call my brother. We didn't go along, at first. We clashed and disagreed, almost for the sake of just disagreeing with another. But through hardship, bloodshed and the horrible crucible of war? We had each other's back. I venture alone to the dark pits of Hella for him."
Placing his hands at his back, Zakito let his sight wander over those present.
"And it is true. These two examples are just two out of countless similar experiences as bonds. It allowed me to learn, to understand and respect other clans and their cultures. Their habits and beliefs. To know that there isn't anything wrong with diversity. However," Zakito's tone gained a sharper tone. One that seemed less positive.
"I oppose this notion of a newly formed organisation. I understand its noble goals and what it tries to achieve. But I have yet to hear an answer to the questions that were asked before." He paused, holding the attention tight.
"First, the idea to have a military unit soley obey the crown is a bad idea. I am unsure how many of you all served but such a command structure is doomed to fail. A situation in the field often requires a swift response. While her Majesty is far from a novice in the art of warfare, she is still being groomed by competent experts. By the time that a request comes at her doorstep, the situation will have changed drastically. The enemy will have a constant advantage while this new force is lingering five commands behind. Furthermore," Zakito continued, taking a second to calmly get some a breather, "I recognise that it is an advantage that the costs will be carried by the clans. But how will it be decided that one clan has paid enough? And what if a clan prefers their own method? I foresee that traditional forces that have operated for centuries will collide repeatedly with such a new organisation."
Frowning, Zakito kept his gaze wandering over those present.
"The idea to also further establish extra camps and stations to garrison, train and equip those who serve in this new organisation will become costly. Not to mention, why even investing in such an endeavour? Aye, it is true that the Zealots have managed to infiltrate and cause damage from within as without. It has appeared several times that they outsmarted the Imperial military. But there are many more operations where the zealots were foiled because of the competent operatives and personnel in the Imperial military. The Imperial Military that we all are already supposed to support. The Imperial military that has already training camps and garrisons, coordinating and operating alongside local clans and people. It may have gone unnoticed by many but without the flexibility and competence of the Imperial military, we would have a much more dire situation at hand."
Inhaling softly, Zakito let his words echo through the hall. He then gestured slowly towards the direction of the Empress.
"The Imperial military does all that is being suggested that this new force should achieve. They are loyal and diligent to serve her Majesty. They are comprised of all the clans that provide willing men and women, that are being trained to the best of knowledge. And during their services, a soldier or shinobi of the Imperial military won't just see the confines of their own clan's heartlands. They will learn to work together as one unit," Zakito leaned forward slightly, placing a hand firmly on the table - the motion creating a harsh sound, to emphasise his points that also followed.
"They fight as one. They eat as one. And much like I have done with the Lord Second or Lord Fourth? They will be ready to die as one. Through that bond? You will cultivate the very same without creating another entity that is similar. If you lords, ladies and masters desire to see such matters to be done? Then I firmly implore that you direct support to the already existing Imperial military. Not to create a mere reflection, with just pooling from the clans."
Done with his response, Zakito would sit down.
Although Resu had been reluctant to speak up since numerous people around the table have 'given their advice and suggestions' to the Senju, the rise of a topic he had heard of before caught his attention. That joint unit that Osafumi had told him about. Once more, it was the Hyuuga that suggested it, and quickly after it was suggested, Lord Hon spoke against it in a very detailed and well-reasoned way as to why it would be redundant. Resu stood up before beginning to speak as well "I agree with Lord Hon regarding the topic of the joint unit. I may have suggested collecting more resources for the imperial army myself, but to create a whole new unit, or army, such as that? That is a whole level much higher than need be at all. And as ironic as it may sound, but I will have to mirror what several others have mentioned before regarding my own suggestion. You say that the force in each area will be under the eyes of whoever owns the land. Why not just use the existing forces? And as an empire, we already share information of what occurs, of sightings and other occurrences."
"I cannot speak about the bonds that are formed in military service as Lord Hon have, but I can speak as someone who observed them from the side. They are, without a doubt, significant and strong. I have known several brothers in arms that have told me they will die for one another. That is how strong their bond is. But the same bond can likely be formed in the existing army. And not just that, the Imperial army is already allowing members of different cultures to bond. Yakimara, Chonobi and Taika are all used, and this in turn allows our troops, that come from different backgrounds, to find a common ground in the Imperial army. That should already be seen as a path growing a bond between members of the clans, not a new unit." Resu said, hoping that he was accurate enough regarding this.
He looked around the table for a moment, understanding well how well he must be appearing as right now, before continuing "It is also, from what I know, the exact same proposal as was suggested in the meeting you have mentioned, and even back then, it was rejected, when all the members were of the same culture. Without any change to your suggestion at all, I cannot see any benefit at all to the creation of this joint unit, as you propose. It would be wiser to focus on the existing army than try to form a new one, for which there is no good reason I can think of at present time."
Hirasuke watched and listened as the topic started to steer away from the initial suggestion of the Senju. There were some thoughts and questions that moved through Uchiha's mind. Sadly, there was no way yet for him to gain definite answers without playing the fickle game of politics along with the other clan leaders and representatives.
Frowning as the Senju decided to side with the Hon, Hirasuke couldn't really say that he was pleased with such an outcome. Aside from Hirasuke disappointment to see such a person from a prestigious Taika heritage side with a mere Hon, Hirasuke had another reason to dislike the current development.
"It may be indeed that this proposed unit lacks the foundation and cohesion that we can find in the Imperial military. But I do think that we are underestimating its potential," Hirasuke began, a smile crossing his lips, "I may not have an esteemed military career as some here enjoy. No offense, Lord Hon, but I think that the point of this unit may also be to promote cooperation. Whereas the Imperial military already does so, we could place the emphasis larger with this proposed unit. In fact, I foresee that we could have our kin become more acquainted with both a military career as learning how to cooperate with other clans as cultures."
Enlisting a pause, Hirasuke trained his sight on the Empress. Slowly and respectfully, Hirasuke bowed his head.
"Your Majesty, I humbly request you to take this proposal into consideration. For have you not also deemed it necessary to organise a new military unit? I believe their names are the Guardians. And if I am not mistaken, they are formally not even part of the Imperial military but are underneath your direct control. You could perhaps see this as a mere extension and branches of Guardians, but then managed by your loyal and noble subjects."
"I believe additionally we are pouncing on the proposal so fresh of the heels of the last one that we have failed to ask a crucial question. What is the proposed size of this new unit? Small enough and it may have no effect on existing logistics. It would be a shame to see it dismissed off handedly without further thought." Drumming her fingers along the table, the Omari representative spoke further. "There is some merit in purposefully trained forces used in counter insurgent methods. They may even have a broader use if prepared properly."
Right as Lady Omari finished, another lady within the hall spoke up. Tsuru of the Yamanaka crossed her arms. "I do believe that regardless of the size, that we already have various military units within the Imperial military that can combat hostile operatives or other threats. Both in a conventional as unorthodox fashion."
Finishing her sentence, Tsuru shot a glance at the Uchiha dignitary.
"Master Uchiha, you speak of the fact that her Majesty created the Guardians. And this is aimed to reflect it? The fact is that these Guardians have been established in a center point where her Majesty has fast control or contact with them. You may also misjudge their purpose. They are to protect the Empress and her, hopefully, future family. Not to just prounce around to do the bidding of a local clan lord or lordling," Tsuru's tone became even sharper as she slightly raised her chin.
"While this new unit may sound good and beneficial, I only predict chaos and disturbance. Some of you declared and agreed that not every clan has the martial expertise to deal with the likes of the Zealots. And now you want to allow them to manage a unit that they have no experience with? It is the equivalent of giving a toddler a spear, hoping it won't hurt itself or those around him."
Restraining the need to scoff and say something in Yakimara, Tsuru would shake her head just instead.
"Even now, some of you are fickling back and forth. How is this unit supposed to work better than what we already have at our disposal when some of you can't make up a clear mind now? Let alone not able to manage your coffers or clan forces."
Turning to the Empress, Tsuru would flash a wry smile.
"Forgive me. But rather than spending resources on a project that is doomed to fail miserably, your Majesty, I would like to offer both supplies and manpower to the Royal Navy. It has come to my attention that some loyal subordinates of the realm have managed to acquire some nice vessels from the North."
Patiently, Kiyomi waited and listened. Enjoying her beverage, she would take in what was being said. The new topic had sparked some curiosity but she wasn't convinced right away. There were certain issues and matters that made Kiyomi waver about giving her blessing to this new sort of force. Not to mention that other prominent and present people started to object.
"Interesting turn of events," Kiyomi stated as she leaned back in her seat. Her attention shifted to the dignitary of the Senju clan. "I will approve that you or any of your kin can bring the matter once you feel that you've fleshed it out, Master Senju."
Of course, there rested the case with the Sarutobi. For a moment, Kiyomi considered responding in kind - using the Chonobi language. But she opted to react as if the Sarutobi dignitary had used Taika.
"Of course, Master Sarutobi. I will lend some of my Sworn Swords to oversee that any important Sarutobi artifacts will be removed from Keishi and returned to their proper place. Furthermore, I will see to it that the Sarutobi clans shall receive a proper reward for their loyalty and services."
Turning her attention to the others, Kiyomi folded her hands together. A silence echoed for a few seconds as she considered what would be wise. But if anything, Kiyomi would have loved to see more try to stand up or against this new topic. Aside from those that were quick to subdue to the words of others.
"I start to gain the impression that this wasn't the work of a sole clan or mind," Kiyomi glanced at the Hanta heir, her eyebrows slightly perking up, "though I find it rather unorthodox to use the topic of Master Senju to drive one's agenda to the table. Anyhow, I do agree that this new force seems a bit," Kiyomi halted as she made a vague gesture, "redundant, if anything. The Imperial military already provides what you are suggesting for this new force, Master Hyuuga."
Lowering her hand, Kiyomi wondered briefly how many of them had been against this or supporting this motion. A clear detail regarding the meeting between the Taika clans had been rather obscure and vague.
"However, I can respect those who are willing to stand by their point. Master Hyuuga, you shall be allowed to form this new unit. Those who agreed to this before shall pay for it, one way or another. Both during and before this meeting," Kiyomi stated, her tone growing a tad more stern, "this force shall be underneath the command of the Hyuuga clan and operate in the heartlands of clans that agreed to it before and during this meeting. Nowhere else."
Letting her words sink in, Kiyomi continued.
"I expect results Master Hyuuga. For if there are none, this force will be absorbed into the Imperial military, into existing units than to remain an independent force outside of it. If by some reason it will bear pleasant results that convince me to keep it alive? Then I will see to it that the crown shall share a burden of paying for it and perhaps discussing for future alterations, that benefit the realm as a whole."
With the meeting coming to an end, the dignitaries would be guided to their lodges. There they would be served by the Uchiha, allowing the dignitaries to rest out until they would be guided back to the next event, to the collective hall. Only this time seemingly more fitting for a time of lounging and celebrating together - or preparing backdoor deals and more intimate diplomatic exchanges.
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