These numbers seem a bit off.
What I'm getting is--
5-9 Miner, no wages - four years in Artana.
9-12 Waitress, part time - three years in Artana. (Waitress is a very modern term, wench is more appropriate.)
12-13 Blacksmith's assistant, part time - one year in Artana.
12-13 Librarian's assistant, part time - two years in Artana.
15-18 Maidservant, full time - three years in Etvia.
18-22 Show business, full time - four years in Kalico.
It's not clearly explained, but all of the part time jobs happened over the span of 3 years. Added numbers:
Age 8-12: Miner, no wages - four years in Artana.
Age 12-15: Waitress, part time - three years in Artana.
Age 12-13: Blacksmith's assistant, part time - one year in Artana.
Age 13-15: Librarian's assistant, part time - two years in Artana.
Age 15-18: Maidservant, full time - three years in Etvia.
Age 18-22: Show business, full time - four years in Kalico.
If these still seem off, I can change her age to compensate, and maybe remove/add some work years.
As for her having a modern "atmosphere," does that refer to the language being used in her biography? That section was done the way it is mostly for fun. If it's the picture (her outfit?) I can change it, but I'll be sad.
Regarding Balefall:
This isn't suggested superstitions--
bad things happen to people in Balefall, especially out in the desert. Speaking in the desert is going to get you killed. While practising magic-- profane or not-- even in
cities is really dangerous. Nearly all mages in Balefall become banes, perhaps one or two out of a thousand unchecked mages survives longer than a couple years once their magic kicks in. Both Ludivine and her father would have died in Balefall.
Her father definitely has no idea what he's getting himself into, and that's intentional neglect on my part as far as not explaining what happens to him. I'm not implying that he's "just that good;" I certainly intended for him to have become a bane very soon into his journey, perhaps even before he found himself a mistress. Presumed dead by the time Sigrid even starts working in the mines. I suppose it's more than a bit of a stretch that he'd live to see his daughter to age 8. I can kill him off early and have her taken out of the country for other reasons, if that's a suitable compromise. The father is not a legend; he's a talented moron.
Speaking in the desert is going to get them killed, by a fearful populace, is what I assumed. I also assumed that whatever makes Balefall such a dangerous place would be down with evil people doing evil things. Does nature itself just wipe anyone who speaks in the desert off the face of the earth? I also made an assumption that her father would still pursue Profane magic after becoming a bane, in particular, taking it further than he wants, against his will. Do banes just not care about anything but killing people? I assumed they'd be down for evil experiments, since they're evil spirits that possess mages. I assumed a lot, is what I'm saying.
Balefall is absolutely the
worst place to go to practise magic. Even if you're not planning to cast any magic, it's still a pretty bad idea for a mage to enter Balefall/Balefall's desert. Even Norboro and its "best kill that mage child on sight" attitude is a better place to practise magic. Statistically it's probably safer to practise magic in a templar's house.
I read into it as "mages are indoctrinated and watched if they're caught, but only killed if they become banes and are discovered as such" and interpreted that as better than "kill mages on sight regardless of proficiency, and their children too just to be safe." I chose Balefall because if it were ever discovered that she was from there, and had those things done to her, people would be very wary of her, perhaps assuming that she's been a bane her whole life (perhaps justifiably, or perhaps out of ignorance for what a bane actually is). In a trend that I'm sure is very apparent by now, I wrote her biography in first person because I thought it'd be fun to hear her (very biased) perspective on it. But I've put implications where there should have been explanations.
Speaking of magic. Magic doesn't manifest immediately. The usual age range a child develops magic is from 8-13i, with extremes being from 5 to 17.
I'm chalking this up to rushed writing on my part; Sigrid is decidedly not a mage at this point. Anything that she experiences is her father's doing. The implication is that he conjures spirits into her, which is what she means by "go wild and lose control." It wouldn't have lasted long, as I imagine the spirits would reject her because she's not a mage, and therefore unsuitable to become a bane. He would definitely have been a bane by this point, though. What's he trying to do? Unlock her magic potential early? Create a child bane? Even I don't know, I just thought it would make her suspicious later down the line. Despite her perspective of what was happening being "fun," those two were most certainly not performing magic together; the most she'd have been doing is hauling her dad's stuff around. "Go wild" wasn't necessarily meant to imply that they were being loud and obvious about it, either. (And again, I'm aware that this isn't written clearly at all.)
So... I'm not
entirely sure what happened here? It sounds like maybe Ludi's mother sold themselves in exchange for passage out of the desert? And... While I can maybe see a mother selling herself into slavery for her daughter-- but would she really subject her daughter to the horror of slavery? I mean... It's not a cakewalk, her child would become
property. By all rights, the slavers could kill her just then and it would be roughly the same as discarding trash.
I'm sure she would have tried, but I'm assuming the slavers wouldn't keep their word to only take the mother, and let poor Sigrid go. She has no means of negotiating with these terrible people. Like you say, there's nothing stopping them from just leaving her there. I'll take it as a plus that my assumption that Sotese slavers would even be in the desert at all worked out, though? At least partially?
Another overall point I'm going to make moving on-- slavery seems very
tame throughout Ludivine's sheet. While Artana is one of the
worst slave countries out there.
Something I'd expected by the time I was done, more or less, but I was impatient to get thoughts on her. A combined result of me trying to reel in my usual grimdark in aspects that I probably shouldn't have, and Ludi herself understating it a lot because she wouldn't want whoever is reading to pity her.
It sounds like you're implying she took to working the mines instead of sexual work? Which isn't unreasonable, but... According to your list she was
five when she started working in the mines?
Well, she'd have been 8, but yes. There are some unfortunate implications here. I made some assumptions (imagine that) about what kind of debauchery the less scrupulous nobles get up to when lower society isn't looking, but left some plausible deniability in there in case I was very, VERY wrong. I'm more than happy to change this if it's completely over the top and outside the scope of how dark you want ATKM to get.
Also, it sounds like she was sold from Sotis to the Artanese mine? Good behavior wouldn't convince a buyer to keep them together. This buyer knows nothing about these people is what the seller tells them about the goods. If someone only wants one adult slave, they're going to buy one adult slave.
She's deluded, desperate, and exercising what little control she has over the situation to give herself a sense of security. Sigrid has no means of understanding that at the time, though.
You also never mention Ludi's mother after this?
Nope. She's presumed alive, but who knows where she is. I've added a line to that effect.
Manager should be overseer. It seems rather odd that he would ask for a cup of tea? There would be different slaves serving as personal assistants/house slaves vs those put to work in a mine.
Will edit the language soon after I post this. This would have also happened in the mines. Yes, his request is very odd; he's amusing himself by making her walk all the way out to get it, and it's cold by the time she gets back, with no practical way to heat it aside from magic. I can clarify this if it's not too absurd. I can also have him get her stuck in a shaft with no light source, and be baffled when she makes it out alive, but that would mean upgrading her first, completely untrained magical nothing from "boiling a tea cup through sheer hatred" (which I already thought was pretty over the top) to "an actual flame held in her hand without burning herself, somehow." I guess it's worth asking how magic in Elliria works and whether or not I have that backwards. The theory is that she'd be more inclined towards Profane magic as a consequence of whatever her father did to her back in Balefall, but if Arcane magic is a required starting point, this won't work.
She caused thousands* in damage but there was no actual inspection?
*I'm assuming you mean thousands in money? Thousands in what...? The standard currency throughout Elliria is 1 gold = 100 silver = 1,000 copper.
Thousands in whatever the highest unit of currency is, but that's just their unfounded claim. The overseer just found the damages to be a convenient way to keep her, when keeping a mage a slave would be most likely frowned upon in Artana otherwise? (If it's not outright illegal, that is?) The debt makes it okay, somehow? I can add an inspection to the timeline if I've taken the corruption of the business world too far for your liking.
... Slaves wouldn't be taken to court. It would be entirely up to their owner (or overseer) to decide how they are to be dealt with. Also, the arcanium wouldn't accept slaves as students.
The idea is that her being a mage and a slave creates interesting problems, because it should theoretically be a rare occurrence that their legal system isn't specifically prepared to deal with except on a case by case basis. This is kind of a recurring theme. Nobody is sure what to make of her, or how to treat her, basically throughout her entire story. It's why her life as a slave sometimes seems too good and sometimes not. I might have taken one of the GM's "a slave in Artana being found out to be a mage creates a dilemma" comment as encouragement when I should have been asking questions... a lot of them.
Education is a privilege throughout Elliria. And someone would have to be paying for it. The exception is that arcaniums do allow mages to perform labor/janitorial type of work for
basic magic training in lieu of money-- however, if someone was slacking too much or breaking rules, they would be kicked out.
She wouldn't be receiving education for free, of course; she'd be working for it, and working hard. How basic is basic, though? I'm assuming what you mean by that is "Profane magic is out of the question," in which case, I'm not sure. The district overseer(?) would have to be very interested in how exactly a slave girl who's barely of the age to use magic at all somehow caused so much trouble with it, and be willing to invest in her training out of sheer amusement? When I write nobles, at least, they do weird things with their money out of boredom. At this point, I may be overstepping the bounds of exactly how loaded an owner of one mining district would be. The easiest solution might just be to "upgrade" her status to "indentured servant" earlier.
Christmas doesn't exist in this world. I don't actually have
too much on holidays, but solstice would probably be more accurate.
It was a joke, recycled from Discord even, and it fell flat this time. Disregard it; it's been removed.
There is no set age when a mage "starts" their education, partially because there is no precise curriculum of schooling.
I was referring more towards her general education here, unless "general education" is just not a thing that exists, which I should have considered. I feel the facepalms coming from across time and space; I'm going to have to apologize frequently for being a pain, if I'm accepted at all. I don't usually do classical fantasy, and I'm sure it shows as I continue to fail reeling in themes of grey morality, legality, and general corruption.
Okay. So it is unlikely a Kalician noble would
own an Artanese gem mine-- he might have a share in it, but it's very unlikely he would even have majority share.
The noble in question being Kalician isn't necessarily critical to the story. I can change this if Mite thinks it's too ridiculous (even if he owns smaller shares in a lot of mines). I'd have to come up with a different reason to get her into Kalico, if I wanted to keep her a politically interesting figure, but that shouldn't be too hard. I made an assumption that what I call "Artanese drama" (parallel to Greek tragedies) is also done in Kalico, since they're so "showy," and seem open to the idea of borrowing from other cultures to achieve that (architecture).
And since (human) slavery is considered atrocious throughout central Elliria, I asked Mite (who is in charge of Kalico) if there were any laws. He said there are laws against human slaves in Kalico. Very serious. Capital punishment.
Sigrid is free by the time she reaches Kalico, unless you meant that owning a slave (even in another country) would be grounds for capital punishment. That being said, her story isn't publicized through her shows until the Kalician noble is already dead. I'm aware that what he's doing is illegal.
He also mentioned that while Kalico is fairly neutral toward magic, they aren't accepting of profane magic.
I'm certainly aware of the stigma attached, as is she. I'm hoping her fame as an actress (established before with shows that didn't involve magic) would pardon her at least a little in the eyes of the Kalician public, and her (admittedly tentative) ties to a noble would have the law looking the other way, at least until she decided to leave the country and join Morcrest, at which point she would cease to be an amusing sideshow and become a palpable threat. I know I'm reaching extremely far for this, but this is one of the most crucial traits of her character, and changing her fire magic from Virulent to Arcane would defeat the purpose. Failing that, would it be patently obvious to anyone watching her show that her fire magic is Virulent in nature, if the fact that she was a Mystic went unadvertised? The intent was that her shows made Virulent magic look as pretty as any Arcane fire would. If only the nobles knew, then maybe she could get away with it?
This goes back to the slavery seems a bit too comfortable point. Furthermore basically all hard labor and intensively menial work is slave labor. Which is how it has been for centuries. That comment is
not the kind an overseer should have-- especially since overseers would be paid pretty well, considering how much money is saved by slave labor.
Took the "corporate corruption" aspect too far again, made assumptions about how well he would be paid, etc, etc... wanted to humanize him a bit, but I took the wrong angle I guess. I don't necessarily want to make him less empathetic, because his seemingly conflicting nature teaches Sigrid something important. I'll just have to find a better way to do it.
More like wench at a nice tavern? If she was a slave, she wouldn't be paid for any sort of job she did, magic or not.
Pardon my filthy modern tongue; I will change the language. She'll need to get paid for the original "legally free but in debt so actually not" idea to work, so she'll have to be "technically freed" earlier, as mentioned above... somehow. Is having magic enough to warrant legally enforcing her freedom in Artana? I'm presuming not, based on the above sentence, so... I'm stumped. Is the idea itself dead? Thematically, I wanted her to experience the full spectrum of "people as property," first as a slave, then an indentured servant, finally, as a wife (coerced or not). Furthermore, freeing her early puts her slavery a lot more than 7 years ago, which is a range I wanted to fall into, unless being an "indentured servant" still counts? I'm just going to need help here.
I think the issue would be more from the fact that she has no experience and lacks an apprenticeship than it would with her being a woman. Blacksmiths serve as assistants/are apprenticed to better blacksmiths for years before being able to be successful in their trade.
I expected the idea of her working at a smithy at all to be absurd, noted the absurdity, and tried to have it make sense (and actually not work out, for a change of pace). Her idle conjecture about women making swords not being realistic will be removed; the important aspect here is that she's worked with dwarves.
Libraries-- especially in Artana-- would be highly selective in who they higher. Books are worth more than slaves due to the lack of printing/mass production.
Yeah, maybe not hire the slave that nearly burned down a mine shaft with no actual magic training, somehow, to work in your library. Good one, Jay. That's actually depressing levels of stupid. I'll axe it immediately.
Why Etvia? While it's true they're pretty lax with any indentured servitude standards, if enough people complained the government would move to end some of the activity. Why not just keep a vacation house in Artana? Where it's
actually legal to keep human slaves?
Etvia was closer to Kalico, really. I was under the impression that Kalico and Morcrest were on flaky terms with each other, and going from Kalico to Artana might be a bit more of a pain than it already is (and I wanted the character to do legally grey things, because reasons). What I will probably do is have her be owned by an Artanese noble, which makes more sense, and "bought" (paid a dowry) by a Kalician noble instead.
Why did he wait? If he basically owns her? In addition "of age" means different things throughout various countries in Elliria. There is also a difference between legal "of age" such as in cases of ruling and politics versus marriage age. In most cases, the latter is around 16.
Fair point. My reasoning is a bit silly. It basically boils down to "I'm acknowledging that coerced, underage sex is a thing that could have happened to this character, but it didn't, because I'm not the same as I used to be." Places I've been to in the past haven't appreciated me touching on "trigger warning" level subject matter, so I reeled it in this time. If you want me to go all-out, I guess I can.
I also considered the possibility that marriage age would be 16, but decided to go with 18 based on the few past fantasy RPs I've been in not straying far from modern sensibilities in that regard. Having the marriage age be 16 helps with the number fudging I'll need to do, though.
There is technically nothing against it, but marrying a former slave as a noble would probably be considered a negative move in terms of popularity.
Is Kalico quirky enough to excuse it if he's rich, she's hot, and it's oh so deliciously scandalous? Actually a legitimate question for Mite. Inquiring minds want to know.
Also a legitimate question: do Sotese slavers "spay their wares," so to speak? I read that breeding slaves was illegal in at least one place and decided to roll with the idea that the slavers would keep their options open as far as what buyers their slaves would appeal to, since they're big on sending them everywhere. If this is not the typical practice, that's an easy change to make. I ask because of comments you've made above about "spousal duties" and figure being unable to procreate is probably not a great selling point. (Believe it or not, this thought did in fact cross my mind before, but now it's become more important.)
Ex-wives aren't a thing. Human marriage is primarily a big deal among the upper class/nobility and is usually much more about politics and alliances than about love. Marriage until death.
Alright, I'd be lying if I said that one caught me off guard. I went a bit nuts near the end. Axe the ex-wife; will do, she wasn't important anyway. Neither is Ludivine's marriage, actually. I was hoping that this particular noble's marriage wasn't so important, but if even the lower nobles have to show some kind of restraint, how about a not-so-secret mistress? He's still going to die, though. Maybe his actual wife will blame Ludivine for it, and that'll turn into something later. As for his dying will, if that would be straight up forbidden by the surviving family, I can just give her the house and other stuff she bought with it while he's still alive.