IN ALL SRS BSNS:
Debates are fun and good. You do your best to get your point across with both perspective and facts. You sometimes succeed in not changing minds, but by challenging that mind and forcing them to question their stance and what they believe in. Changing their mind is too simple: "Oh, yeah, you're right." By making them go, "... Hmmmm," is the much greater victory IMO.
BUT...
BUT.
BUUUUUT...
We all know that one asshole. Hell, we've met many of them.
And that one asshole needs a beat down.
There are many people that need a beat down.
And too many of you are unwilling to do it. >:C