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Sure, start up the thread and we will talk Feminism.
"you are not as educated and smart as you think you are."
If you are going to go for personal insults, I'd prefer you address me directly in them.
Ad Hominems are Logical Fallacies, by the way.
Thats pretty easy, feminism as a whole has prove itself time and time again to be a lock step movement.I am not trying to be insulting, I am pointing out a logical common sense fact. You don't condemn all of Christianity just because Westboro Church peeps go around protesting stupid shit in the news all the time. You don't condemn all gamers just because a bunch of assholes are elitist about what constitutes being a gamer and what doesn't. So why on earth would you condemn a movement of social equality like feminism because of IT'S extremists? o__o That's not educated.
KayCall them out in the debate and debate, or don't.
No true Scotsman, suggesting you can't be a true gamer because of something you want.And you missed the point completely. Feminism is only concerned about its own narrative. They want to impose it as a gaming industry standard. You cannot be a gamer and hate all gaming that doesn't match up with your own ideology in lock step.
I think some people need to re-educate themselves on what REAL ACTUAL FEMINISM is, and not buy in to the hype of crazy extremists. o__o
Because if you are going to sit there and talk about the beautiful world of gaming, like there's not some fucked up extremists douchebags out there that makes the rest of the gaming look shitty, and then condemn feminism for their stupid collection extremist dingbats, you are not as educated and smart as you think you are. >:[
Sure, start up the thread and we will talk Feminism.
"you are not as educated and smart as you think you are."
If you are going to go for personal insults, I'd prefer you address me directly in them.
Ad Hominems are Logical Fallacies, by the way.
Sadly, when was the last time you heard of real actual feminist other than someone saying they exist? And when have you heard of an actual feminist movement happening to make things better? Me personally? 5 or so years ago.REAL ACTUAL FEMINISM
Misrepresentation of my point.No true Scotsman, suggesting you can't be a true gamer because of something you want.
Because feminism doesn't want to completely change game industry to match its ideology, regardless of the fact that it has time and time again in debate after debate on youtube, done this very thing.Strawman, inventing an exaggerated argument where they hate ALL gaming that doesn't match their ideology, or claiming that the reason they want COD gone is because of their ideology alone.
Fine, I accept this premise.That still doesn't justify judgement feminism by it's extremists. o__o Judging ANYTHING by it's extremists is not the way to make intelligent and informed decisions about something.
Sadly, when was the last time you heard of real actual feminist other than someone saying they exist? And when have you heard of an actual feminist movement happening to make things better? Me personally? 5 or so years ago.
Lets look at the leader of the movement of feminism in gaming and go by that.
Anita Sarkeesian... Huh. Looks like I'm still perfectly on point.
But again, you're suggesting someone can't be a true gamer because they want something in gaming to go away.Misrepresentation of my point.
My point is that feminists can't just be happy with ignoring the games that they don't like, but those games should go away because of that opinion.
If I must look at someone else's argument to know yours, could you at least point me to where I might find these arguments?Because feminism doesn't want to completely change game industry to match its ideology, regardless of the fact that it has time and time again in debate after debate on youtube, done this very thing.
I would once again defer you to Milo Yiannopoulos and Sargon of Akkad.
Feminists attacking gamers was almost non-existent before Anita Sarkeesian. Of course, she would have remained a nobody if gamers didn't get all hot and bothered and go after her the way they did and started giving her way more attention than she deserves.You are making the assumption she is the leader of the movement, and not just some whackadoodle lady that got a lot of attention. Whackadoodles are always getting face time and making things look bad for their cause. The Donald Trump for presidency fiasco is a good example. This still does not mean you base your entire opinion on those extremists.
CoD is one of those titles that pretty much defines gaming. Its silly not to let people have what they like.But again, you're suggesting someone can't be a true gamer because they want something in gaming to go away.
Yup. I used what she said as an example to address what seems to be the feminist mindset.Not to mention you were addressing Chrononaut, who said they didn't like COD, and not a nebulous mass that represents all feminists everywhere.
My argument is that the charges against gaming by feminist is a false premise.If I must look at someone else's argument to know yours, could you at least point me to where I might find these arguments?
You must not be on YouTube that much then because I've seen many women call out Anita and say how dumb she's being. And guess what? Some of them were FEMINISTS. *gasps* How shocking is that?!!Feminists attacking gamers was almost non-existent before Anita Sarkeesian. Of course, she would have remained a nobody if gamers didn't get all hot and bothered and go after her the way they did and started giving her way more attention than she deserves.
Buuuuuut.... She took the platform that she was given and ran away with it. She is the one going to debates and debating this topic. She is the one pushing for legislation. I haven't seen a single feminist call out Anita and tell her to fuck off or any kind of feminist resistance against her and what she is saying at all.
If you judge Christianity, you look at the example and the face of it, which would be Jesus.
If you looked at Islam, you look at 6 year old marrying Mohammad.
If you are looking at a movement, you have to look to the example. In the case of feminism in gaming (specifically) you look to Anita.
Yeeeaaaah, no. You need to acquire more information than judging something by face value or by the most obvious and easy to see example. O_O Otherwise, you have not learned enough to make an educated opinion, and can't really have an informed conversation.