Mafia 2.0: Day Thread Game #7

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RULES & ROLES

Overall Policies

Do not discuss the game with other players outside of the in-game PMs and day phase thread, at all. You are free to discuss it with people who are not playing.
Do not edit or delete posts. No, not even to correct typos or to remove double posts. While I know that this is frustrating, it is too easy to cheat otherwise. If the current "hall monitor" (@Shizuochan) or I catch you editing or deleting posts, we will revert your edit or undelete your post.
Do not talk in night chats during the day phase, and vice versa. This should be fairly self-explanatory.

Inactivity

Inactive means no activity in the day thread or responding to night action reminders.
If you are inactive for 1 full cycle, you will receive a warning.
If you are inactive for 2 full cycles, you will be roleblocked.
If you are inactive for 3 full cycles, you will be killed. I will state at the beginning of the discussion phase that you were removed for inactivity. If you have a power role and there are any vanilla team members alive and active, one of them will randomly receive your role.

The game will start with me using a RNG to assign roles to players. I will then PM each player to let them know what their role is and ask them for their first night action if they have one. Once you receive this PM, the game has officially begun.

The game consists of three phases: the night phase, the discussion phase, and the voting phase. The discussion and voting phase are referred to collectively as the day phase. The night phase will take place solely in PMs, while the discussion and voting phases will take place on a public thread. Each phase will be 72 hours long, starting and ending at 5:00 PM MDT. A maximum of two single-day extensions each may be requested for the discussion and voting phases. The discussion phase will also end early if requested. I may also extend or end the day phase if I believe discussion is still active or has ended, respectively. You are still allowed to discuss during the voting phase.

At the start of the night phase, I will PM each person with a night role asking how/if they would like to use their night action. Once the night phase ends, the night actions will resolve and I'll enact any results. For example if person X is killed, then at the end of the night I will inform X that they have been killed, and add/remove them from any PM chats as necessary. Most PMs are between the player and myself only, however some players have the ability to communicate with others at night: if this is the case, it will be stated in their role description.

Next comes the discussion phase. Every discussion phase will begin with me announcing who (if anyone) died the previous night, that it is now the discussion phase, and when the discussion phase will end. In the discussion phase everyone is able to talk about who they think is what role, who they want to lynch, and whatever else may be relevant to the game. I may jump in with rule clarifications if I believe someone is confused about the rules. At the end of the discussion phase, I will announce that the discussion phase is over and that it is now the voting phase, along with when the voting phase will end.

In the voting phase everyone may vote on who they want to lynch. In order to vote you must publicly announce in the day phase thread that you are voting to lynch X player. People are allowed to cancel or change their vote, but keep in mind that you are not allowed to edit or delete posts. If someone is voted on by the majority of players (majority = (Total Living Players/2)+1, rounded down when total players is odd) before the end of the voting phase, then that player will be lynched. I will post announcing that X player has been lynched, state their faction (town, mafia, or neutral), and add or remove people from PMs as necessary. If nobody receives a majority of the vote before the end of the voting phase, I will announce that nobody has been lynched. When either somebody has been lynched or the voting phase ends, I will announce that the voting phase has ended and the night phase has begun. I will also state when the night phase will end.

Any questions people have during the game can be asked in this thread, in the day phase thread if it is currently the day phase, or via PM. I would prefer that you ask any role-related questions via PM to prevent cheating, though this is not strictly necessary.

The game ends once either all the town or all the mafia are dead. Once this happens, the game will end and I will announce the results in the discussion and voting phase thread. The results consist of who won and a complete role list. After the game is over, the discussion and voting phase thread will be archived, and players may discuss their thoughts on the game in this main thread. We will generally start planning the next game and pick the next GM and "hall monitor" at this time.

Mayor: The mayor may reveal themselves anytime during the day phase. After they are revealed, their vote counts as 3 votes.
Detective: The detective may visit one person every night. They learn the faction--town, mafia, or neutral--of the person they visit.
Doctor: The doctor may protect one person from being killed every night. They have two self-heals.
Medium: The medium can communicate with the dead. They will be part of the dead chat. While they can always see the dead chat, they are only allowed to talk to the dead at night. After they die, they will be able to send one message. They may choose who to send this message to at any time. The message will be sent at night.
Lookout: The lookout may visit one person each night. They will see who visits that person. The Lookout has a night chat with the Tracker.
Tracker: The tracker may visit one person each night and see who that person visits. The Tracker has a night chat with the Lookout.
3 normal townies

Mafia and Neutral
2 Mafiosos: The mafia vote on who to kill each night. They may decide who visits the target. If they do not choose, one of them will be randomly picked.
Consort: Mafia-aligned. The consort may visit one person each night. The person they visit can not use their night ability and will be told that they were blocked. If there are no other mafia alive, the Consort becomes a Mafioso.
Executioner: Neutral. The executioner gets a randomized town-aligned target at the beginning of the game. Their goal is to make sure that person is lynched. If their target dies at night, they become a Jester. The Jester's goal is to be lynched. Both the Jester and the Executioner are immune to night kills.
Survivor: Neutral. The survivor's goal is to survive throughout the game. They get three self-heals that they can use at night.
 
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Yeah, see, trick is we have little idea. Sure, there are some possible targets with somewhat suspicious behavior, but honestly? We know very little. If you wanna stay around and help investigate, I know I'd love to have you around, but remember the game ends when we kill that last mafioso. You lose if you're not lynched by then.
Yessir.
tho pushing to lynch me whai ;.; jk,
I understand
Joan my poor cinnamon roll I'm sorry ;_;
I'm asking everybody, and I mean everybody, to pitch in on this. Who do you think reads as most likely mafia? Currently, the
So far, my read is 7.39. They're the most suspicious to me, based upon what's been said by people like Lucky. When everyone lynches me, then I'll be targeting them for now.
 
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I'm asking everybody, and I mean everybody, to pitch in on this. Who do you think reads as most likely mafia? Currently, the only living people with confirmed roles are me, @IntrusivePenDesperateSword, @The_J, and @Lusterine. I'm sorry, @LuckycoolHawk9 and @CloudyBlueDay, but a vanilla town claim is not confirmed, as much as I want to trust you.

That is understandable. That being said, I'm not asking you to put trust in my claim. I'm asking you to put trust in your logs. On night 1 when Pen watched me, I didn't go anywhere. If I was mafia, I would have gone places. I didn't, so I'm asking you to go on this claim. If I am going to take a guess, I imagine 7.39 will claim vanilla townie like CloudyBlueDay and I. If that is true, one of is lying as we all can't be town. Assuming that the 5 dead are all town and we can confirm Joan and Pen are Lookout and tracker, that leaves two town slots. No matter what, these two are townie, role or non-role. That being said, if 7.39 answers Doctor or Mayor and can prove it. ( Reveal for Mayor or a list of who they healed.) Then we can narrow down. As of right now, my suspects are cloudyblueday and 7.39. That being said, CloudyBlueDay has voted guilty both times for the mafia. I know that I also look suspicious as I didn't intentionally vote for Neo, but I honestly was planning too and didn't have the time to respond.
 
That is understandable. That being said, I'm not asking you to put trust in my claim. I'm asking you to put trust in your logs. On night 1 when Pen watched me, I didn't go anywhere. If I was mafia, I would have gone places. I didn't, so I'm asking you to go on this claim. If I am going to take a guess, I imagine 7.39 will claim vanilla townie like CloudyBlueDay and I. If that is true, one of is lying as we all can't be town. Assuming that the 5 dead are all town and we can confirm Joan and Pen are Lookout and tracker, that leaves two town slots. No matter what, these two are townie, role or non-role. That being said, if 7.39 answers Doctor or Mayor and can prove it. ( Reveal for Mayor or a list of who they healed.) Then we can narrow down. As of right now, my suspects are cloudyblueday and 7.39. That being said, CloudyBlueDay has voted guilty both times for the mafia. I know that I also look suspicious as I didn't intentionally vote for Neo, but I honestly was planning too and didn't have the time to respond.
As much as I'd like to trust that, it's not exact proof. If we had watched you after Neo died, then yes. But either of the mafia can visit their target, so Neo could simply have gone instead of you. I'm sorry, but you're still unproven.
 
As much as I'd like to trust that, it's not exact proof. If we had watched you after Neo died, then yes. But either of the mafia can visit their target, so Neo could simply have gone instead of you. I'm sorry, but you're still unproven.

That is fair. I wouldn't trust me, 7.39 or CloudyBlueDay either.
 
I can't see how voting for the guilty would prove anything other than my being town. Why would I vote to kill my fellow mafia each time?
 
@Joan @LuckycoolHawk9

what's the math like if we mislynch? let's say we lynch @7.39 this day phase, can town still win with another man down?
 
I can't see how voting for the guilty would prove anything other than my being town. Why would I vote to kill my fellow mafia each time?
Anything is possible at this point in the game. I'm not saying I don't think your claim is valid--I'm saying your role is not proven, and we have no way of proving it right now.

@Joan @LuckycoolHawk9

what's the math like if we mislynch? let's say we lynch @7.39 this day phase, can town still win with another man down?
I already addressed this, here's my math.
Doing math in my head for if we mislynch tonight...assuming worst-case scenario:
-We'll have five people left. Two will be town, one will be mafia, and the other two are jester and survivor. At that point, I do not like our chances at all. By your chart, Pen and I are the only people with night actions left...

Pen and I may have figured out that J's not mafia and avoided a potentially deadly lynch, but other than that, our intel is zilch. We have to rely on reads.
 
I hate to say it, it might be better to wait to hang then. Statisically, we got four town to two neutral and one mafia. If one of us dies and they get a kill, we got three towns to three wildcards. We need four votes to vote up. The only worst statistic is killing the jester and him missing the mafia or betraying us.

Those odds are worst as we will get two dead ( town or neutral, it doesn't matter) and a dead jester

At that point, we would have four votes, one who was mafia, 1-2 towns and 1-2 neutrals. At that point, town would have to rely on the neutral not screwing them and that's a big gamble.
 
I hate to say it, it might be better to wait to hang then. Statisically, we got four town to two neutral and one mafia. If one of us dies and they get a kill, we got three towns to three wildcards. We need four votes to vote up. The only worst statistic is killing the jester and him missing the mafia or betraying us.

Those odds are worst as we will get two dead ( town or neutral, it doesn't matter) and a dead jester

At that point, we would have four votes, one who was mafia, 1-2 towns and 1-2 neutrals. At that point, town would have to rely on the neutral not screwing them and that's a big gamble.

I'll just be clear then. If we wait, I will not vote next round, no matter what. But if we vote tonight, then I'll vote with town.
 
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I hate to say it, it might be better to wait to hang then. Statisically, we got four town to two neutral and one mafia. If one of us dies and they get a kill, we got three towns to three wildcards. We need four votes to vote up. The only worst statistic is killing the jester and him missing the mafia or betraying us.

Those odds are worst as we will get two dead ( town or neutral, it doesn't matter) and a dead jester

At that point, we would have four votes, one who was mafia, 1-2 towns and 1-2 neutrals. At that point, town would have to rely on the neutral not screwing them and that's a big gamble.
It's either we kill someone through lynching me now, or we wait until tomorrow and give the Maf a free kill.
 
I keep forgetting we have the Jester kill. Makes the lynching in a pinch easier. I don't have a lot to add, why are we choosing 7? They're the least active? No one have really said anything directly suspicious.
 
I keep forgetting we have the Jester kill. Makes the lynching in a pinch easier. I don't have a lot to add, why are we choosing 7? They're the least active? No one have really said anything directly suspicious.

It's more than just the fact they are least active in talking. It's the fact that they have NOT voted a single time at all. On top of that, each time the mafia was voted up, they neither voted guilty or abstained, but they seem to be active enough that Star has kept them in the game. Of course, I can be wrong.
 
Paging @7.39 again. Do you have any role to claim, anything to say for yourself...anything to say at all?
 
I may be wrong, but I'm voting for @7.39 ( I'm sorry if you are town and Cloudy is mafia)
 
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I'm voting for @The_J, as promised.
 
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Uh @Joan, are you sure that is a good idea? I think lynching the jester is too big of a gamble, especially when he hasn't exactly shown to be team-friendly. Also, if I'm wrong on my guess and someone else is mafia, then we lose three members between this voting and night phase. One to mafia, one to the jester and our hanging. That leaves four members if we mess this up. No matter what, we would lose two members ( either neutral or town) and our jester. That would make it so that we have on the next day, 1 mafia, and 3 other roles. If the survivor lives ( and they aren't siding with us) or town is tricked, it leaves a 2 to 2 split. Mafia kills one more night. We got a 2 versus 1 and it would be a big gamble. At least with hanging someone like 7.39, we don't make that gamble. Worse case, I'm wrong and we lose one more member, but at that point, we can see who is left that could be fronting as mafia.
 
Uh @Joan, are you sure that is a good idea? I think lynching the jester is too big of a gamble, especially when he hasn't exactly shown to be team-friendly. Also, if I'm wrong on my guess and someone else is mafia, then we lose three members between this voting and night phase. One to mafia, one to the jester and our hanging. That leaves four members if we mess this up. No matter what, we would lose two members ( either neutral or town) and our jester. That would make it so that we have on the next day, 1 mafia, and 3 other roles. If the survivor lives ( and they aren't siding with us) or town is tricked, it leaves a 2 to 2 split. Mafia kills one more night. We got a 2 versus 1 and it would be a big gamble. At least with hanging someone like 7.39, we don't make that gamble. Worse case, I'm wrong and we lose one more member, but at that point, we can see who is left that could be fronting as mafia.
It sounds like, rather than describing reasons for not voting for me, you're just describing how bad of a situation the town in. It's not fantastic, but come on. I've been helping you guys as best as I could ever since I took off the mask, and I have literally no reason to betray you.

Vote for The J, assuming that's allowed.
 
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Actually, @Starlighter, I have a question. Is the jester still getting his night kill and if yes, can it only be people who vote him up?

Because if the answer to that is yes, then our strategy doesn't work.
 
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