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Wait, you people had to study for A's? o_o
In all seriousness though, in an attempt to clarify what you're saying do your views by any chance at least somewhat match those described in the video below?
Yes I know the video is not literally saying don't stay in school before anyone jumps on me.
But it still lacks a number of element's compared to normal school, which I will be getting to below.
You aren't always going to enjoy learning stuff that you need to know in life, and I think we can all agree that it would be pretty bad if we simply allowed a bunch of people to never learn how to read because it wasn't fun for them.
Now, it should be noted that in these cases the Teachers are also failing in making the content engaging and interesting to their students, but a teacher failing to do that doesn't mean the info is now not worth learning.
And no, people won't spend mass hours on the Internet forcing themselves to learn things they don't like.
Hell I even have issues sitting down long enough to get all my Skyrim Mods to play nice, something I care significantly about.
Imagine that with a child, on something where there was no self interest or motivation?
Or for an example more people here can relate to, looking at an RP and going "Eh... I'm not in the right mood/state of mind to make this post now".
If you can't even rely on yourself to always dig into hobbies and stuff you enjoy, how can you expect it in an Academic setting when there's nothing making you learn the stuff?
But that doesn't mean we should simply let the rest of the population go uneducated.
Neither that does it mean that we should only focus on educating a certain percentage of our youth.
Funding where if not coming from the school needs to either come from charities (which are limited, and do not get a consistent/reliable donation amount) and families (many of which are poor/not well off).
So even strictly from a fun/recreational social standpoint, a lot of kids are going to miss out simply due to poverty if School ceases to be a thing.
And the negative interactions although despicable are also important, if you never learn to deal with people that you dislike you're going to be ill-equipped for the adult world.
You will have to deal with bossess, co-workers, nasty customers etc. that you don't like or get along with, and you need to have the discipline to handle them.
This is exposure you won't have if you don't to go school.
Granted you *could* make the argument that you meet shitty people online all the time. But that also has two flaws to it.
1. You not dealing with them physically, there's a lot of methods one can use to annoy you RL that they can't use behind a computer screen.
2. People online tend to be very liberal with the mute, block, kick and report buttons of people they dislike. That's not learning to deal with other people, that's hiding/shying away from it.
Now in the end, School has a ton of issues.
But nothing is ever broken, and if we tore stuff down simply because it had flaws then we'd never get anywhere in life or as a civilization.
He and I have both turned out pretty well.
However, I also have another friend from my Autism therapy days who has been homeschooled ever since Grade 3, is 18 now and has never went back to Public School.
And in his case he's been paying for it quite severely.
In my case it was ran by current Autism Therapists who were also trained professional teachers. The main Academic topics of focus were Math, Science and History. However the real main focus was honestly self-esteem, for the three years prior I was in a school where bullying exaggerated to the point that my self esteem was all but shattered (note this bullying was outright reinforced by a teacher there) , so the goal of the home school was to keep up caught up academically, but repair self esteem to the point where come Grade 7 I would be fine to go back into the Public School system, and it worked.
In my High School Friends case, it was also as a retreat/pull away from shitty situations. Mainly physically dangerous (hospital potential I believe) bullying, and outright abusive and neglectful staff. In fact the school had a case where their air conditioning was outright broken, so students were boiling alive in the school. Parents got together and raised money for the school so that they could fix it and the students wouldn't be exposed to such ridiculous heat. The staff went ahead and spent it on new computers for the Teachers. So he ended up being pulled, and taught all the academic subjects by most of his family members taking turns, and was then sent back when it was time for High School. It should be noted he pulled consistent 80's and 90's in High School without any need to study, and is now in college to be a Car Mechanic.
While the Autism Therapy Friend? His was a lot more censoring in nature, essentially what happened was the whole matter of "Didn't like being taught stuff he didn't care for" combined with "It's hard".
And this home school transition also ended up being an Autism Therapy replacement, because he wasn't liking being told stuff like Autistic stimming isn't a good thing to have.
By all intents and purposes, the home school in his case started off the same as mine (despite the 3 year difference his first year of home school was as an occasional classmate of mine) but it quickly warped after that year into a safe zone and circle jerk. Everything was fun and games, if something was stressful they didn't need to worry about it, essentially everything was done to send the kids home with a smile on their face, rather than any actual knowledge.
Fast forward to today?
Issues will still pop up such as shouting, screaming and storming out in a D&D game over a character vs character fight.
Simply because he was never taught any kind of self-discipline or control.
Now to be fair there is an obvious difference here, me and my high school friend were there for a limited amount of time and were in the public school system for all of high school.
While my friend from Autism Therapy was never put back into public school.
But there's also another big difference here, two also made efforts to work on academics, while the third was more built as a "Don't worry, be happy" sort of thing.
So basically what I'm getting at is Home School does have a place, it can be useful.
But it needs to be used wisely, sensibly, you need to remember that Academics are a thing, and it can't be permanent. You need to be sent into the public school system again at some point, because the exposure is very important. Plus the obvious factor of High School offers a ton of courses, programs etc that no home school can scrap the funds, room or space to provide.
In all seriousness though, in an attempt to clarify what you're saying do your views by any chance at least somewhat match those described in the video below?
Yes I know the video is not literally saying don't stay in school before anyone jumps on me.
Yes, the Internet is a very useful tool to aid something in learning, and acts as quick easy access to a vast amount of information.Obviously we can google answers for almost anything now a days with how the internet has grown. How to do math problems, looking up poems and stories from famous writers past, even looking up everything we'd ever need to know about past events like wars or natural disasters. Now with that said, what do we need grade school for? What benefit does it now hold?
But it still lacks a number of element's compared to normal school, which I will be getting to below.
Well being perfectly honest, that's life.All school does beyond the internet (in my opinion) as a tool is force the kids with no learning desire to learn, and in the end, it doesn't help them all that much. Note me saying this is based on PERSONAL experience; I've only ever met kids more averted to work after forced school than ones who accept work as a reality. This even happened to me as well, until I was able to transfer to a highly flexible online school. And yes, this does mean I learn with the internet a hell of a lot.
You aren't always going to enjoy learning stuff that you need to know in life, and I think we can all agree that it would be pretty bad if we simply allowed a bunch of people to never learn how to read because it wasn't fun for them.
Now, it should be noted that in these cases the Teachers are also failing in making the content engaging and interesting to their students, but a teacher failing to do that doesn't mean the info is now not worth learning.
And no, people won't spend mass hours on the Internet forcing themselves to learn things they don't like.
Hell I even have issues sitting down long enough to get all my Skyrim Mods to play nice, something I care significantly about.
Imagine that with a child, on something where there was no self interest or motivation?
Or for an example more people here can relate to, looking at an RP and going "Eh... I'm not in the right mood/state of mind to make this post now".
If you can't even rely on yourself to always dig into hobbies and stuff you enjoy, how can you expect it in an Academic setting when there's nothing making you learn the stuff?
This is true, those with a desire to learn will always fare better than those who don't.Additionally, those who DO want to learn will be the ones prepared for life better. They'll know what is needed and avoid what is not, especially helpful to learn what they need for a career, and if something comes up they don't know or understand? They will have the searching skills to find what is needed in a matter of minutes, not over the course of a months long course full of other, probably useless things.
But that doesn't mean we should simply let the rest of the population go uneducated.
Neither that does it mean that we should only focus on educating a certain percentage of our youth.
All those social activities you listed require funding.Another thing people seem so stuck on with schools is socialization. But, that is what sports, events, and going out to do things does! And unlike school, if you meet someone on a sports team you don't like, it's much easier to avoid them. Bullying is a smaller issue as well, and even better is that from a very young age the student would interact with all ages, not just peers. Less risk of negative interactions like bullying, and ability to converse with all people? Sounds damn good to me.
Funding where if not coming from the school needs to either come from charities (which are limited, and do not get a consistent/reliable donation amount) and families (many of which are poor/not well off).
So even strictly from a fun/recreational social standpoint, a lot of kids are going to miss out simply due to poverty if School ceases to be a thing.
And the negative interactions although despicable are also important, if you never learn to deal with people that you dislike you're going to be ill-equipped for the adult world.
You will have to deal with bossess, co-workers, nasty customers etc. that you don't like or get along with, and you need to have the discipline to handle them.
This is exposure you won't have if you don't to go school.
Granted you *could* make the argument that you meet shitty people online all the time. But that also has two flaws to it.
1. You not dealing with them physically, there's a lot of methods one can use to annoy you RL that they can't use behind a computer screen.
2. People online tend to be very liberal with the mute, block, kick and report buttons of people they dislike. That's not learning to deal with other people, that's hiding/shying away from it.
Now in the end, School has a ton of issues.
But nothing is ever broken, and if we tore stuff down simply because it had flaws then we'd never get anywhere in life or as a civilization.
I've been homeschooled during Grade 6, and a High School friend of mine was homeschooled from about Grade 2 right till the end of Grade 8.Unless you really know what you're doing, it's better to stick the kid in the educational system and guide them through it.
He and I have both turned out pretty well.
However, I also have another friend from my Autism therapy days who has been homeschooled ever since Grade 3, is 18 now and has never went back to Public School.
And in his case he's been paying for it quite severely.
In my case it was ran by current Autism Therapists who were also trained professional teachers. The main Academic topics of focus were Math, Science and History. However the real main focus was honestly self-esteem, for the three years prior I was in a school where bullying exaggerated to the point that my self esteem was all but shattered (note this bullying was outright reinforced by a teacher there) , so the goal of the home school was to keep up caught up academically, but repair self esteem to the point where come Grade 7 I would be fine to go back into the Public School system, and it worked.
In my High School Friends case, it was also as a retreat/pull away from shitty situations. Mainly physically dangerous (hospital potential I believe) bullying, and outright abusive and neglectful staff. In fact the school had a case where their air conditioning was outright broken, so students were boiling alive in the school. Parents got together and raised money for the school so that they could fix it and the students wouldn't be exposed to such ridiculous heat. The staff went ahead and spent it on new computers for the Teachers. So he ended up being pulled, and taught all the academic subjects by most of his family members taking turns, and was then sent back when it was time for High School. It should be noted he pulled consistent 80's and 90's in High School without any need to study, and is now in college to be a Car Mechanic.
While the Autism Therapy Friend? His was a lot more censoring in nature, essentially what happened was the whole matter of "Didn't like being taught stuff he didn't care for" combined with "It's hard".
And this home school transition also ended up being an Autism Therapy replacement, because he wasn't liking being told stuff like Autistic stimming isn't a good thing to have.
By all intents and purposes, the home school in his case started off the same as mine (despite the 3 year difference his first year of home school was as an occasional classmate of mine) but it quickly warped after that year into a safe zone and circle jerk. Everything was fun and games, if something was stressful they didn't need to worry about it, essentially everything was done to send the kids home with a smile on their face, rather than any actual knowledge.
Fast forward to today?
Issues will still pop up such as shouting, screaming and storming out in a D&D game over a character vs character fight.
Simply because he was never taught any kind of self-discipline or control.
Now to be fair there is an obvious difference here, me and my high school friend were there for a limited amount of time and were in the public school system for all of high school.
While my friend from Autism Therapy was never put back into public school.
But there's also another big difference here, two also made efforts to work on academics, while the third was more built as a "Don't worry, be happy" sort of thing.
So basically what I'm getting at is Home School does have a place, it can be useful.
But it needs to be used wisely, sensibly, you need to remember that Academics are a thing, and it can't be permanent. You need to be sent into the public school system again at some point, because the exposure is very important. Plus the obvious factor of High School offers a ton of courses, programs etc that no home school can scrap the funds, room or space to provide.