So, here's what I'm thinking. The Orcs have a smallish continent pretty much to themselves. It's a fairly nice place, good climate, plenty of resources, that sort of thing. So Orcish society centers in the foothills of their mountain range, where they plant crops, raise sheep & goats, and mine the hills for iron & mithril. Great city-states they call Strongholds emerge, and culture flourishes. Then, suddenly, the Age of Elves dawns, and from across the sea come Elven ships, there to declare all land they discover property of the Empire of Silthador. Needless to say, this goes over poorly with the locals, who are well-armed and many in number, and so throw back the invaders with ease, and more or less forget about Elves for the next few hundred years. Meanwhile, in the flourishing empire, magic is what makes the world go round. No one is anyone until they've gone to an academy of magic, joined either the House of the Sun or the House of the Moon, and proven themselves a great mage. Through their tampering, climate change begins to affect the world, and a heat wave that will last generations hits both continents. To the Elves, this means warmer winters and longer summers, and general happiness. The Orcs, however, suddenly find that their summer rains are now falling in the winter as snow. This poses a fairly large problem, since their entire agricultural system relies pretty heavily on those summer rains. Their society disintegrates as stronghold fights stronghold, and in a few generations Orc society turns nomadic, as they wander the plains for food and only return home to winter over. Meanwhile, the Elven search for greater magical power gets them into trouble. A lot of trouble. With a portal opening to a demonic plane. The Empire collapses almost overnight, and many of the survivors pile onto ships, landing on the shores of the Orc's continent, again. Here the Elves are divided. The House of the Sun, hotheaded and brash, assert that with the Orcs having lost much of their metalworking and population, would be an easy conquest and they could re-establish their empire in this new land. The House of the Sun preaches moderation, though, and states that a war of conquest against the Orcs would do more harm than good- rather, they suggest, the Orcs could be a useful army against the demonic threat, which they fear will not be far behind. Orcs are not exactly cohesive either. The War Chiefs want to reclaim the glory of their forefathers, and drive back the invader threat. The Shamans have seen the disruption in nature, and fear for the world itself- an alliance with the Elves could be the only way to save themselves. This is still totally rough and a first draft. I'd love to get at least one other person, maybe two, who will help me build this world and develop this plot fully. I wouldn't be at all opposed to having humans, Dwarves, or some other race enter the picture, or even the Demons themselves. Anyways, post away if you have any interest or ideas!