Godmodding Guidelines

Discussion in 'THREAD ARCHIVES' started by Kino, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. This is a list of guidelines that I created a while back. They are meant to describe what constitutes as godmodding, primarily during a T1 based RP fight, and can be used for virtually any setting or genre. This is for those who may not be experienced with RP combat and might need a little help, and advanced fighters alike.

    1: Teleportation of ANY kind, including portals and moving at a speed that is so fast that it might as well be teleporting, if used during a fight or for the purpose of starting a fight, such as teleporting behind someone to hit them or anything like that, is a god mod. It is a mod because it makes it nearly impossible, if not entirely impossible to hit you. It is ok to use outside of combat, but once your character is engaged in a fight, it becomes unfair to use. This means that using it to escape a fight is also not fair to do. Moving abnormally fast is ok, so long as it is still possible for someone to keep up with you, provided they have the ability to do so.

    2: You cannot block an attack with your body and take no damage from it. No matter how insanely powerful your character may be, if you are directly hit with any attack, you take damage from it that is relative to the attack dealt. For example: if someone slices your arm, and you fail to either dodge it or block it with a weapon or shield or something of the like, your arm gets cut. Depending on how the attacker worded the post, your arm could in fact be cut clean off.

    3: Your attack, no matter how complex, no matter how powerful, no matter how long it took you to charge it, CAN AND MUST be able to be completely avoided in some way. Now the way it can be avoided can be extremely hard to figure out, sure. Or it can take a lot of power to avoid, power equal to the amount of power it took to make the attack. Which means that if you put every last ounce of your energy into an attack and someone manages to avoid getting hit by it, you're shit out of luck because you just used up all your power and are now almost completely defenseless. Bottom line is, there is no such thing as an attack that cannot be avoided, period.

    4: Armor does not protect you from everything. If someone with the strength to punch a building and turn it into a crater slashes you with a sword, I don't care how thick your suit of armor is, that steel isn't going to prevent it from penetrating. Armor is almost completely useless in a high power RP fight, and it is recommended that it be used only for show. However, this is limited to high power fights, as stated, and armor can be very useful in the right scenarios against the right opponents. RP genre and setting should also be taken into account. However the base rule always applies: Armor can protect, but not from everything.

    5: In case I didn't clear this up earlier, an attack requires an equal amount of power to create as the amount of damage it causes. So the harder it is to defend against, the more power it must drain from you in the process. For example: If someone makes an attack that is powerful enough to take out several people and deal incredible destruction to the area at the same time, that is what we call a "Finisher" move. Such a move usually requires the user to be drained of nearly all power after usage. It is a trump card, if you will.

    6: Illusions are a tricky thing to call into an RP fight for several reasons. One of those reasons is that it's so easy to god mod when using one, and usually takes a lot of skill and practice in order to use one that is not a mod. In order to use an illusion, you MUST make it possible to whomever it is being used on to figure out that it is an illusion. You can make it difficult to figure it out, but it must be able to be figured out without asking if it is an illusion. Another, more noobish way of doing it, is to include in the post itself that it is an illusion. You can't make some kind of super crazy attack that nearly destroys someone and then say "oh it was an illusion, don't worry" UNLESS you make it so that they can figure out what it is BEFORE it is used. They don't HAVE to actually figure it out, but you have to provide what is needed in order for them to be able to figure it out.

    7: Any weapon can be broken if it is put under enough strain. You can augment your weapon, enchant it, forge it, whateverthefuckyouwant it to make it stronger both physically and magically, but it is by no means completely indestructible. Even if a weapon can be disassembled and reconstructed, or shattered and reconstructed, it can be permanently disabled/broken somehow. Again, the way to do it can be hard to figure out, but it can be done.

    8: Doing something as incredible as moving planets, stars, controlling the flow of souls, or anything that outrageous, is a godmod. Doing things like that would require VAST amounts of power to accomplish even in a small way. So much power that, short of being a god character, you shouldn’t be able to do. There are times when something like this may be possible, but only for story reasons, and almost never during a fight.

    9: You do not have an unlimited amount of energy. You do not have the ability to completely drain your energy in an attack, and then absorb energy from something else to regenerate all the energy you used up. You may be able to become stronger or obtain more energy based on certain circumstances, but it is not unlimited no matter what. Absorbing energy in and of itself is a touchy subject in a fight. It is generally accepted that when someone absorbs energy that does not belong to them, they cannot hold on to that energy for more than a few seconds, and it causes a certain amount of discomfort/pain depending on the type and amount of energy absorbed. It can be a great way to deflect an energy attack and/or keep from having to use your own store of energy, but it does not come without a price.

    10: Hybrid races are a tricky thing to use. But here’s the deal. If you choose to play as a hybrid character that is made up of more than 1 race, such as a vampire/demon, or any other mixture, then you take into account the weaknesses that both races have. You cannot have all of the strengths and none of the weaknesses; it just doesn’t work that way. Any strengths that you get from one side will be halved since you are only 50% of that race. However, the same goes for its weaknesses. You will only be half as affected by whatever that race is weak to. If you play a character that is made up of 2 races that both share similar strengths and/or weaknesses, then those would be amplified accordingly, however it is generally accepted that you would never be as powerful as a pure breed. You could be close, and in certain aspects could surpass a purebreed, but it varies depending on the combination. Switching between 2 halves is a tricky thing as well. Doing so can change your attributes dramatically, like perhaps a demon/angel. Some people might make a character with that combination and instead of being a weird looking white/black creature, they would prefer to switch between the 2. When doing so, their affinity changes accordingly from light to dark and vise versa. However, it is still expected that the character will not be as powerful as a purebred of either race. It would be a bit unfair to say that one minute you’re as strong as a full blooded dark demon, and the next your affinity changes to be as strong as a full blooded light angel.

    11: Custom races/species are rarely used, but if you think you’ve got a great idea for one in mind and want to use it, there are a few simple rules you need to know. The race, like all others, must have equal but opposite strengths and weaknesses. There is no such thing as a perfect race or species. For every abnormal positive, there must be a corresponding negative. Follow this rule and you should have no problem creating a believable and useable new custom race.

    12: Custom magic follows very similar rules as custom races. If you wish to create a new power through magic, it must have disadvantages to balance its advantages. For example, I myself created a type of magic I call Chaos magic/energy by taking light and dark energy and forcing them together. The result is a highly unstable and violent new energy that is a result of the 2 opposite conflicting energies fighting against each other. It is a very powerful form of magic and can be used in a variety of ways, but due to its unstable nature, it is almost as dangerous to the user as it is to its target. But that is the tradeoff. I get to use a much more powerful magic against my opponents, but in return, I take damage from it as well. So it works.

    13: Healing in combat is another tricky thing. Typically, healing in combat is considered cheap, but in some cases, it can even be an outright godmod. First of all, there is no such thing as an instant full heal. Your character cannot be severely injured in multiple places, and then you cast a super uber heal spell and suddenly your character is perfectly fine. Healing magic follows the same principles as any other magic: The output must be proportional to the input, meaning that if a super heal of that magnitude were to be done, then virtually all of your energy would have to be used up in the process, and you would more than likely still die because you'd be a sitting duck after that. Healing should only be done in small amounts during combat, if at all, and never instantly, always over time. Things like bandages and whatnot can be used, provided that you can find the time during a battle to apply them (and no, magic self-applying bandages are not ok to use.) Passive healing (healing that works without the need for magic, such as the way vampires are known to have quick regenerating abilities.) are never powerful enough to patch you up fully during combat. While such a thing will heal your wounds more quickly than a normal human, the process will still take time, at least a day or 2 depending on the injury. You can't be like Wolverine from the X men and take a bullet to the brain and recover from it in just a few minutes. That kind of passive healing is way to powerful and is considered a godmod if used in combat. In fact, recovering from a shot to the brain AT ALL would be considered a godmod, even if it's not passively.

    I hope that these guidelines will help everyone better understand the do’s and don’ts of RP combat. These can generally be used in any RP type/genre, but are mostly confined to T1 style combat, which is the most used style in the world, and typically the only one used in a forum setting. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. This list may be modified in the future.
  2. I think this qualifies more as a Workshop! I should go ahead and post the guidelines for those to avoid confusion.

    The reason for this is that many of the Dos/Do-Nots that you list are really up to playing style and personal taste. I can think of AWESOME RPs I've been in that broke most of those rules, and everyone involved had a lot of fun. A lot of what you are pinning up here as issues can be avoided so long as people are mutually respectful and aren't playing absolutely dead set to win 100% of the time.

    That said, you also list some pitfalls that even the best RPers fall into, so this is a good frame of reference if not explicitly a guide for those who have issues with power-playing or godmodding. SO IF YOU'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF GODMODDING, READ THIS.
  3. Well they are really meant for just straight up fighting scenes in which both players fighting each other are out to win the fight. If the fight was dealing more towards story development or something like that, then it would of course be up to the players involved to decide their own rules.

    But in a situation in which no rules regarding fighting are present and you are out to win, then these would be the rules to go by in order to make sure it went smoothly in my opinion. General guidelines to go by when no others are present. ^_^
  4. I think the distinction that you're making here is the difference between a turn-based combat text game and a collaborative story/text-based roleplay. This site is focused on the latter, thus my input!

    So for a fighting-oriented game, this would be one good set of rules to use. :3
  5. Next time I use an RP heavy on fighting, I'll keep this on hand. Thanks!
  6. Thank you for this. Players ignoring these things and going crazy has ruined a lot of RP's I was in in the past, and I wish I had this rule sheet to show them, since my players sometimes don't listen to me very well. I prefer "realism" like this in a roleplay, whether story or combat based.