Trump Rally Riot in Chicago

[Diana]

I'm sure people will call me an ass and all, but I'll make this point before our censors lock this thread;

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AS FOR THE TOPIC:

I don't believe Trump is a real presidential candidate. I believe he's just in it for the easy money and fame. Even if he did make it to the final vote, he's not gonna win. All this sensational news stuff is making him look more popular than he actually is. So I avoid all Trump as much as I can. ;______;

 

[ᴛᴏᴄᴋᴀ]

Trump: I'm not responsible for violence at rallies

Okay, let's all stop to consider a few points here.

The guy who was punched supposedly had the middle finger up. Okay, he's saying 'Fuck you' to the crowd of GROWN ASS ADULTS! You don't punch someone in the face for that if you're an adult. You ignore it and move on.

Point two, Drumpf claims it's anger against incompetence. Okay.....people are fed up, I get it. People want change; we all do. I'm angry that Drumpf is even being considered as a candidate. So does that mean I have the right to go punch some random Trump supporter in the face?

I'm not going to even get into the fact that he's pretty much slandering Sanders. He doesn't have any evidence at all that Sanders sent any protesters to his rally, yet he's throwing out an accusation like they got direct orders from Sanders himself. If Drumpf can throw around lawsuits to everyone that says something that bothers him, why can't I sue Drumpf every time he opens his disgusting mouth to spread more trash? I think we should all be able to sue him.

 

[Allegretto]

Trump: I'm not responsible for violence at rallies

Okay, let's all stop to consider a few points here.

The guy who was punched supposedly had the middle finger up. Okay, he's saying 'Fuck you' to the crowd of GROWN ASS ADULTS! You don't punch someone in the face for that if you're an adult. You ignore it and move on.

Point two, Drumpf claims it's anger against incompetence. Okay.....people are fed up, I get it. People want change; we all do. I'm angry that Drumpf is even being considered as a candidate. So does that mean I have the right to go punch some random Trump supporter in the face?

I'm not going to even get into the fact that he's pretty much slandering Sanders. He doesn't have any evidence at all that Sanders sent any protesters to his rally, yet he's throwing out an accusation like they got direct orders from Sanders himself. If Drumpf can throw around lawsuits to everyone that says something that bothers him, why can't I sue Drumpf every time he opens his disgusting mouth to spread more trash? I think we should all be able to sue him.

My point was that the some of the trump supporters were also attacked by the protesters so they not entirely in the wrong for fighting. Might be wrong with the old man since it doesn't seem like self-defense after what you said. The protesters still instigated the entire riot, they are primary responsible for the violence not the supporters. I don't particularly like Trump but the protesters are clearly in the wrong here and you can't excuse that.

Trump changed his name to avoid persecution since he is part german and many germans were suspected of being nazis during ww2. So yeah.

 

[Allegretto]

I'm not going to even get into the fact that he's pretty much slandering Sanders. He doesn't have any evidence at all that Sanders sent any protesters to his rally, yet he's throwing out an accusation like they got direct orders from Sanders himself. If Drumpf can throw around lawsuits to everyone that says something that bothers him, why can't I sue Drumpf every time he opens his disgusting mouth to spread more trash? I think we should all be able to sue him.

So sanders is not responsible for the people who supporters him? Good, then apply the same logic to Trump. He's not responsible for the few kkk nuts supporting him.

 

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I mean sure but a leader also as be to able to stand up for himself when needed.

Well they were in the wrong and later called everyone racists including sanders. Not very excusable.


The protesters started the violence they're not innocent at all. The old man could also being acting in self defense when a bunch of crazy protesters are trying to assault you. Trump can do whatever he wants with his money I don't really think he's condoning violence when liberals/far leftists are the people starting riots and injuring people.

Did you watch the video? The guy (yes, he was flipping his fingers) was walking out with a police escort and the old man walked over to him and punched him in the face. The cops seemed oblivious to what happened as they were walking and when the victim, cause yes he was assaulted, gathered his senses and turned around he was slammed to the ground by cops due to being agitated.

The victim didn't touch anyone and is allowed to say whatever it is he wants as long as he is not touching anyone. The old man was wrong for punching him in the face, it was unnecessary as the victim was being escorted out.

The right thing would be to say, "I do not condone violence from those who do not support me nor those who do." rather than excusing it as, "Oh he's old and passionate for his country!"

Also, I am now very curious about you.

 

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So sanders is not responsible for the people who supporters him? Good, then apply the same logic to Trump. He's not responsible for a the few kkk nuts supporting him.

But he is. When David Duke said he was endorsing Drumpf, rather than outright saying he didn't want the man's endorsement, he claimed he didn't know who Duke was, or what he stood for. Anyone who is not a racist would have automatically jumped away from that endorsement like it was a poisonous snake. If I was running for president and Duke endorsed me, the first words out of my mouth would have been to tell the bastard exactly where he could stuff that endorsement.

Donald Trump stumbles on David Duke, KKK - CNNPolitics.com

He claims he didn't know who David Duke was, but an earlier quote from him about David Duke was found. He knows exactly who he is, and the fact is, he doesn't want to denounce his endorsement, which is why he didn't do it on a televised interview.

The man has been caught in so many lies that it's not even funny, yet no one wants to see that. I'm not saying that the other candidates aren't guilty of it. Hell, they're politicians, if their lips are moving, they're lying. But this isn't some lie that can be swept under the rug. He can say 'Oh, well I don't want the endorsement' but he didn't do it when it mattered. The first words out of his mouth the minute he found out was 'Fuck you! I don't want it.' Yet, he didn't do that until the media already made a big deal over how he first responded.

 

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But he is. When David Duke said he was endorsing Drumpf, rather than outright saying he didn't want the man's endorsement, he claimed he didn't know who Duke was, or what he stood for. Anyone who is not a racist would have automatically jumped away from that endorsement like it was a poisonous snake. If I was running for president and Duke endorsed me, the first words out of my mouth would have been to tell the bastard exactly where he could stuff that endorsement.

Donald Trump stumbles on David Duke, KKK - CNNPolitics.com

He claims he didn't know who David Duke was, but an earlier quote from him about David Duke was found. He knows exactly who he is, and the fact is, he doesn't want to denounce his endorsement, which is why he didn't do it on a televised interview.

The man has been caught in so many lies that it's not even funny, yet no one wants to see that. I'm not saying that the other candidates aren't guilty of it. Hell, they're politicians, if their lips are moving, they're lying. But this isn't some lie that can be swept under the rug. He can say 'Oh, well I don't want the endorsement' but he didn't do it when it mattered. The first words out of his mouth the minute he found out was 'Fuck you! I don't want it.' Yet, he didn't do that until the media already made a big deal over how he first responded.

Yeah he lied about not knowing David Duke but with the media basically going all out against him, Trump tried to avoid guilt by associate he DID condemn David Duke before:

• In 2000, Trump considered running for the Reform Party presidential nomination but did not run because he said he did not want to be associated with Pat Buchanan, who had left the Republican Party to seek the Reform Party nomination, and David Duke, who supported Buchanan. Trump at the time called Duke "a bigot, a racist, a problem." Trump's David Duke Amnesia

Trump also condemned him after the interview so it's not like he supports him and with a lot of his supporters being southerners ( take that as you will ) it isn't exactly wise to go alienating everyone without knowing exactly what's going on. Trump isn't not responsible for the kkk nut supporting him he has not encouraged them and the David Duke idiot has chosen to support him. Again by your logic Sanders is responsible for the BLM nutjobs supporting him.

Hillary Clinton is the Queen of lying. She should be in jail.

 

[LunaValentine]

He is. No one can deny that.

Also /hugs and loves @SacredWarrior while shoving @LunaValentine into a river for noticing the suspicious trend :P

What'd I do? I just didn't know what the things you were saying had to do with the rally... >.<

 

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What'd I do? I just didn't know what the things you were saying had to do with the rally... >.<

XD i was responding to someone else's comment on single women getting off of welfare and marrying a man for money.

I was just messing with you lol

 

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Yeah he lied about not knowing David Duke but with the media basically going all out against him, Trump tried to avoid guilt by associate he DID condemn David Duke before:

• In 2000, Trump considered running for the Reform Party presidential nomination but did not run because he said he did not want to be associated with Pat Buchanan, who had left the Republican Party to seek the Reform Party nomination, and David Duke, who supported Buchanan. Trump at the time called Duke "a bigot, a racist, a problem." Trump's David Duke Amnesia

Trump also condemned him after the interview so it's not like he supports him and with a lot of his supporters being southerners ( take that as you will ) it isn't exactly wise to go alienating everyone without knowing exactly what's going on. Trump isn't not responsible for the kkk nut supporting him he has not encouraged them and the David Duke idiot has chosen to support him. Again by your logic Sanders is responsible for the BLM nutjobs supporting him.

Hillary Clinton is the Queen of lying. She should be in jail.

I never claimed Sanders wasn't responsible. See, people keep trying to get at me by making claims about candidates they think I support. The truth is, and I've stated it countless times; I don't support a single one of them. There is not a single candidate that I like in this election, but I know that when it comes time to vote....

So yeah, say what you want about them all. I could care less. The only difference between Drumpf and all the others is that I'm not absolutely terrified of what will happen to this country if they get in office.

 

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Did you watch the video? The guy (yes, he was flipping his fingers) was walking out with a police escort and the old man walked over to him and punched him in the face. The cops seemed oblivious to what happened as they were walking and when the victim, cause yes he was assaulted, gathered his senses and turned around he was slammed to the ground by cops due to being agitated.

I amended what I said after seeing Nydanna's response.

The victim didn't touch anyone and is allowed to say whatever it is he wants as long as he is not touching anyone. The old man was wrong for punching him in the face, it was unnecessary as the victim was being escorted out.

The protesters started the WHOLE thing they attacked cops, trump supporters, and threatened physical violence against anyone. That is inexusable so i'm not going to have much sympathy for them if they get hit back. I'm not saying the old man was right but the protesters are the one that provoked everybody.

The right thing would be to say, "I do not condone violence from those who do not support me nor those who do." rather than excusing it as, "Oh he's old and passionate for his country!"

Agreed.

Also, I am now very curious about you.

Thanks :D

 

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I never claimed Sanders wasn't responsible. See, people keep trying to get at me by making claims about candidates they think I support. The truth is, and I've stated it countless times; I don't support a single one of them. There is not a single candidate that I like in this election, but I know that when it comes time to vote....

I don't like any of the canidates either. I would vote for O'Mailey or Kasich since they're somewhat sane but O'Mailey dropped out and Kasich is not going to get the nomination.

 

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Fuck O'Mailey! I lived in Baltimore when he was in office. He's a snake, almost as much as Drumpf is.

 

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Fuck O'Mailey! I lived in Baltimore when he was in office. He's a snake, almost as much as Drumpf is.

Then Kasich and not as bad as Hillary. Like if you think he's bad just look at Hillary track record. It's realllllyyyyyy bad.

 

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The protesters started the WHOLE thing they attacked cops, trump supporters, and threatened physical violence against anyone. That is inexusable so i'm not going to have much sympathy for them if they get hit back. I'm not saying the old man was right but the protesters are the one that provoked everybody.

What protest are you talking about? In THIS protest, the female that was with them started yelling when Trump started to speak. Then the group that was with her (a black guy, a gay guy and a muslim) joined in. When they were asked to leave, they got up and did as they were told. They didn't touch anyone or the cops (otherwise they would be in jail) and the whole incident was recorded. So...how does flipping people off mean you get sucker punched in the face? XD

I think you're confusing this protest with the other "loud" protest of which within the last few days, there have been 3?

Even in the "mace" incident, the protestors were standing around, they were being loud yes but they didnt touch the cops or the horses. Unfortunately the horses got frightened by the crowd and the cop reacted by hosing down people with mace, his colleagues followed suit and that was just intense. Omo i didn't agree with it but it happens.

 

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O'Malley screwed Baltimore out of a decent chief of police. If Ed Norris had held the position, there wouldn't have been any riots. But I'm a bit biased about that because I always liked Norris. The fact that my dad was an acquaintance of O'Malley, and knowing the type of person my father is makes me a bit more biased as well against the guy. Anyone who associates with my father and remains in association with him is the scum of the Earth and should be sent off to some remote island somewhere.

Kasich kind of lost a lot of respect because of his opinions on unions and his treatment of police and teachers in his own state, at least that's what I've heard. I've never looked into it because the guy's obviously not going to be on the ballot come November.

The only person I would have voted for was Rand Paul, and he didn't make it off the ground, which took the only candidate I would have given a somewhat solid yes to. As it stands, and with my own political views, there will never be a candidate that I can fully get behind. I do believe like many others that the country needs the leadership of someone who is not a career politician. However, in my opinion, I think someone with a strong military background would be best for the job. If someone like Powell would have run, I would have been happy.

I also wonder how Drumpf's supporters will handle the fact that people in England have actively tried to have the man banned from the country. How are we supposed to continue diplomatic relations with one of our closest allies if he can't even step foot in the country? He might be able to scare protesters away in the U.S, but outside this country there isn't damn thing that he can do.

 

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What protest are you talking about? In THIS protest, the female that was with them started yelling when Trump started to speak. Then the group that was with her (a black guy, a gay guy and a muslim) joined in. When they were asked to leave, they got up and did as they were told. They didn't touch anyone or the cops (otherwise they would be in jail) and the whole incident was recorded. So...how does flipping people off mean you get sucker punched in the face? XD

I think you're confusing this protest with the other "loud" protest of which within the last few days, there have been 3?

Even in the "mace" incident, the protestors were standing around, they were being loud yes but they didnt touch the cops or the horses. Unfortunately the horses got frightened by the crowd and the cop reacted by hosing down people with mace, his colleagues followed suit and that was just intense. Omo i didn't agree with it but it happens.

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[Allegretto]

O'Malley screwed Baltimore out of a decent chief of police. If Ed Norris had held the position, there wouldn't have been any riots. But I'm a bit biased about that because I always liked Norris. The fact that my dad was an acquaintance of O'Malley, and knowing the type of person my father is makes me a bit more biased as well against the guy. Anyone who associates with my father and remains in association with him is the scum of the Earth and should be sent off to some remote island somewhere.

Kasich kind of lost a lot of respect because of his opinions on unions and his treatment of police and teachers in his own state, at least that's what I've heard. I've never looked into it because the guy's obviously not going to be on the ballot come November.

The only person I would have voted for was Rand Paul, and he didn't make it off the ground, which took the only candidate I would have given a somewhat solid yes to. As it stands, and with my own political views, there will never be a candidate that I can fully get behind. I do believe like many others that the country needs the leadership of someone who is not a career politician. However, in my opinion, I think someone with a strong military background would be best for the job. If someone like Powell would have run, I would have been happy.

I also wonder how Drumpf's supporters will handle the fact that people in England have actively tried to have the man banned from the country. How are we supposed to continue diplomatic relations with one of our closest allies if he can't even step foot in the country? He might be able to scare protesters away in the U.S, but outside this country there isn't damn thing that he can do.

I don't particularly like them I just think they are the best of the worse between Trump, Clinton, and Sanders.

 

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If I could put anyone into the presidency it would be Thomas Sowell.

 

[K3l]