A rather controversial topic perhaps in our modern day, partially spurred from myself by the whole votin madness over in the USA. I think many of us enjoy, appreciate, and generally like the nations we were born in, but there's a certain level for many that seems to go beyond that into the realms of pride. This doesn't seem like a bad thing, but I'm sure many of you already know various historical occurrences where it has become one. That being said, what are your thoughts on it? Personally, I'm strongly anti-nationalist; I see the idea of being proud of simply being born at a certain place, with certain genetics, and a certain time as batshit stupid.