PIPS - Discussions (April 2018)

This one tickles all kinds of alliterative satisfaction for me. I'm an absolute sucker for it and the repeated sounds provide a great rhythm to the poem.That said, I really struggled to infer much meaning from this. I found the word choices a bit too abstract, and apart from the sheer joy of the alliteration, I didn't really get much from this one.

This is kind of the same thought I had while writing it.

The goal I had in mind was to produce the ideas or at least feelings of loss and (self-)redemption while remaining as minimalist as possible.

All this I attempted while sticking to my grossly alliterative style, so I think I'll agree that I might have made something pretty, but missed the mark on content, albeit due to shooting myself in the foot.

It's TOO minimal.
 
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Seeking Acceptance

"I deserve to be happy"

Here's a bit of wisdom from an equivalent void: no, it's not OK to feel this way. That's the whole point. Otherwise we wouldn't be even thinking about deserving to be happy. The point is we overcome that feeling, or we change that feeling -- but no, that feeling is not OK, and to feel that way is to have sunk further into that feeling.

That is, unless the feeling is not acedia, but something like forbidden love, which the title seems to point to. In which case, my bad? but then the last stanza confuses that interpretation ("Not yet"? So the speaker has control over how she is accepted by everyone? Or has she not accepted herself yet -- but then, what's the point of "It's not OK to feel this way"?), and there's really nothing else in this piece that shows what that feeling truly is.

I absolutely agree with you that feeling "I deserve to be happy" is not ideal, but it's a step forwards from "I deserve nothing because I'm an utter failure and all my failings are wrought by my own hands." Once you become able to accept that "Actually, yes, you do deserve happiness and that you are worth something", it is then possible to start taking steps towards that goal.

The feeling I was thinking of was neither of those actually, although I guess I can see the apathy interpretation. I actually wrote this as a reflection of some of my ongoing struggles with an anxiety disorder. For years, I drove myself forwards with a constant stream of 'I should' and then beat myself up whenever I didn't. I drove myself down a road paved with the fragments of my own self-esteem until I...fell apart at the seams basically. As part of the treatment I'm now getting, I've come to realise that the 'I should' was probably the most damaging aspect of what I was doing. So I wrote this poem as a reflection on that - on accepting my feelings, on setting acheivable and reasonable targets for myself, and on trying to break out of those self-destructive habits.

I think you may have misread one bit, I wrote "It's ok to feel this way", not "It's not ok to feel this way", and I dunno if that difference would've helped make the intentions clearer for you. One other slight mistake...though I have dressed in drag before, I made a pretty awful woman if I do say so myself!

Hey y'all,

Just wanted to pop in and say that I'm thinking it's not really a matter of CrystalTears not being "a better poet"; I'm gonna say that if you were both lost, I probably communicated it poorly. I think I was too esoteric, or too vague. So! I'm glad you both communicated it to me so I can learn from it.

I'll put my intended meaning here, if anyone is interested:
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It's about someone who returns to a church to do a confessional in the booth and ask for forgiveness, many years after leaving the church. At first, they feel vulnerable and don't know how it works, but they go with it. During the process, they realize that it's a painful thing to put everything you hate about your actions on the table and ask for forgiveness - like physically massing a witch's body and lighting it ablaze beneath the scrutiny. The person decides that forgiveness from oneself takes more vulnerability to obtain, and is more necessary for them than forgiveness from an authority figure.[/spoili]

That helps a lot, thanks. I didn't really get much sense of the 'forgiveness from self vs external' conflict, I think that may have been put super subtly. Maybe a feeling of 'Is that it?' after the first, external, forgiveness and then at the end return to the booth, pull back the curtain and see yourself on the other side? Kinda cheesy I know, but something like that would've really highlighted the meaning. That said, reading through it with your context really made a lot more click. You had some beautiful metaphors in there that I missed before - the 'girl sprouting flowers' becomes simultaneously beautiful and also tragic in that new light. Thanks for the context, since I do feel like I have a greater appreciation of it now that I understand so much more of what was intended.

This is kind of the same thought I had while writing it.

The goal I had in mind was to produce the ideas or at least feelings of loss and (self-)redemption while remaining as minimalist as possible.

All this I attempted while sticking to my grossly alliterative style, so I think I'll agree that I might have made something pretty, but missed the mark on content, albeit due to shooting myself in the foot.

It's TOO minimal.

It is VERY pretty though. I was wriggling in sheer joy at the alliteration. It was SO satisfying to read aloud!
 
I absolutely agree with you that feeling "I deserve to be happy" is not ideal, but it's a step forwards from "I deserve nothing because I'm an utter failure and all my failings are wrought by my own hands." Once you become able to accept that "Actually, yes, you do deserve happiness and that you are worth something", it is then possible to start taking steps towards that goal.

The feeling I was thinking of was neither of those actually, although I guess I can see the apathy interpretation. I actually wrote this as a reflection of some of my ongoing struggles with an anxiety disorder. For years, I drove myself forwards with a constant stream of 'I should' and then beat myself up whenever I didn't. I drove myself down a road paved with the fragments of my own self-esteem until I...fell apart at the seams basically. As part of the treatment I'm now getting, I've come to realise that the 'I should' was probably the most damaging aspect of what I was doing. So I wrote this poem as a reflection on that - on accepting my feelings, on setting acheivable and reasonable targets for myself, and on trying to break out of those self-destructive habits.

I think you may have misread one bit, I wrote "It's ok to feel this way", not "It's not ok to feel this way", and I dunno if that difference would've helped make the intentions clearer for you. One other slight mistake...though I have dressed in drag before, I made a pretty awful woman if I do say so myself!

That first paragraph was me spelling out what the acrostic said. That's about it. It is very loosely tied to the meat of my review, however, which is this: it would be truer to say that it's not OK to feel this way, especially seeing as how the feeling is much closer to the struggles I first thought of, rather than to struggles a subtler (yet, it seems, unintended) reading of seeking acceptance for homosexuality. Like I wrote, if you feel that you deserve nothing because you're an utter failure and you deserve whatever it is that have befallen you, then no, you're not feeling the right feelings, and to accept that as such is to fall further into that trap. We change, or we overcome: we cannot wallow.

More importantly, though, is that the poem is not clear enough as to what that feeling is, this time for a very different reason. If, before, the danger was reading the feeling as bad vibes instead of homosexual love, with your response I think that what you mean with that feeling is regaining self esteem -- which, unfortunately, every other line fails to telegraph. The stanza immediately preceding seems to provide a background for what is assumed to be the speaker's moment of awful, while the stanza immediately succeeding reads more as a clarification of the action that immediately produces the feeling-as-something-negative. Thus, why the first point that popped into my mind is that response: again, I read the piece clearly enough, the problem is with that confusion on what is meant by the feeling, I immediately disagreed with it being OK to feel so unhelpfully bad.
 
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RiverNotch's Capsule Reviews! Part One

For Folly's Sake

The lack of punctuation stands out. In my mind, it's also a lack of polish for a free verse piece to capitalize the start of its lines, as it's a practice modern publishing techniques have obsolesced. Of course, this isn't exactly free verse, but that's another lack of polish -- it comes close, though, and I understand very well the difficulties of keeping in time.

What caught my attention at first is that first line -- a mark of critical bias, on my part, as I'm often drawn (when critiquing) to pieces similar to my own. That said, reading on, I feel a bit of unease as to its use. "As above, so below" is an alchemical motto for how things on earth reflect things in heaven, and vice versa -- as such, say, the pre-enlightenment belief in astrology as something actually predictive, rather than psychological. It evokes a sort of Platonic optimism that does not fit well with the chaos evoked by the rest of the stanza, or even by the whole first half of the piece.

Also, lines 7 and 15 are especially bothersome. 7 should be "Wherefore", not "Where for", and even then, it's such a common phrase in renaissance literature that I can't be sure what it actually alludes to. As for 15, "and" really should be in the next line: it's the only line that, with "and", ends with an unstressed syllable, and "noose" makes for a far more evocative ending.

Overall, it doesn't really say much of anything that we haven't heard before (no war please -- and without even the benefit of specificity), nor does it evoke any strong feelings.

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I will concede to lack of polish. This must be the second poem in my life. I wrote about the dual fear and love of the ocean, in high school. It was surprisingly mature.

I really enjoyed writing the first third, which was entirely original. However the following two thirds became taxing because I was locked into a rhyming/phrasing scheme. I actually chose to do free verse due to that very limitation in historical styles. Historical styles necessarily carry a weight or emphasis to them that I did not want to impart in my poem without a more working knowledge of those styles. For instance with free-verse not having capitilisation - I think this is a non-issue. It does not relate to the content of the poem but only to the context of the poem. It only has meaning to one skilled in poetry, whereas I as a novice should hope to write to a less informed audience. In the end though my not-quite-free-verse regular rhyming scheme held me back.

Lack of punctuation is to reinforce that the lines if each paragraph are all in the same idea (I accidentally full-stopped the last paragraph on the first line, it wasn't intentional). And the first letters are capitilised because that's how OneNote liked it.

You picked up mostly about the first line "as above, so below." It is a common thought of reflecting the heavens on earth. However instead of alchemy, this is harsh look at religious zealotism. The uneasy disconnect between the first line was intentional as you are shown the reality - chaos, not symmetry. I tried to not use word choice which would make it all sound like a witch's spell. Its a good thing too considering you saw alchemy in it. That could have distorted the meaning :/. So this is why I have gone with an off-time meter, to break up the 'incantation' feel.

Without diving into the intention of the piece, the structure is like:
Status quo;
Outcome;
Insight;
Status quo
Outcome;
Insight;
Status quo.
I wanted the insights (the horribly out of place lines) to stand out and leave an impression. I have also not finished the last two Outcome and Insight paragraphs because that is looking into the future and is yet to be written [by the reader].

This piece is admittedly not very ground breaking with regards to the themes of my usual content. I certainly could've stretched to something more daring or challenging.

I thinks that's all I had to mention...

Edit: I also wanted to add that historical rhyme schemes seem clinical to me. Free verse is immediately more emotional, personal, and evocative. It follows that if one wants to make an impact, one MUST use free verse.
 
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RiverNotch's Capsule Reviews! Part Two

Not Enough

In terms of polish and emotion, it's there. There's not enough of a picture as to what exactly is going on, but the piece seems wary enough to drop some markers of how the speaker's mind is working at the moment: "This indescribable feeling of wanting to monopolize you." That said, it's not quite enough, and there's enough only-platonic media in the world that the piece becomes forgettable. If, in this case, the lack of specificity is not a detriment to getting the point across, it is a detriment to making the piece worth more than its vulgar point.

Animal Babies

The piece would lack in polish, if the whole was written in sentences; instead, even the transition from commas to periods feels deliberate. As for a point, my main issue is that this doesn't have any close-enough relationship whatsoever with its stated themes of grief and redemption: if the fusion of childbirth, carnivory, and carnal activity was supposed to be a metaphor for something, what that something is is totally obscured.

Of course, my concern with these reviews is less about relating pieces to the official themes, and more about taking them on for what they themselves are trying to say. Like I said, I don't know if this piece is trying to say something, but it definitely shows me something, both with the objects the words convey and the sounds they deliver. And I suspect that with this pretty picture, I might be able to find a message -- later.

Internal Inferno

The Shakespearean sonnet is really composed of three things: rhyme scheme, meter, and argument. In terms of rhyme, no problems here -- the one imperfect rhyme is no sin in these modern-modern times, and the one deviation from the scheme feels intentional (cruel justice literally corrupting the sonnet). In terms of meter and argument, however...

Iambic pentameter (IP) is tied to the Shakespearean sonnet mostly because Shakey popularized it, and he was writing in a time when that rhythm was in vogue. I'm not sure if its proponents way back when had any conscious justification for it, but now people claim it keeps things clean, it follows regular patterns of speech, or even it mimics the rhythms of the heart -- anyway, I'm not here to justify tradition. The problem is that your piece doesn't do away with it entirely: lines 1 and 3, for example, are reasonably IP, while lines 2 and 4 are made up mostly of anapests.

But meter requires only polish; argument requires revision. The first quatrain compares revenge to a flame; the second states that this flame cannot be smothered by seeking "righteous, cruel justice"; the third states that it can be doused with a "cold ablution"; and the couplet makes a jump by saying that forgiveness is what can snuff out the fire, ie that forgiveness is that cold ablution?

Well, it is a jump, but something like John Donne's "The Baite" pursues its metaphor with few recollections of what it all literally means until the end, where what seems like a jump is actually just the author leaving the mental connections to the reader, turning the piece into something of a pleasurable puzzle. The real problem with your argumentation is that, no, it does not pursue the original metaphor very well -- how can justice smother a flame, anyway?

There's also the imagery chosen being comparatively trite (revenge as "a fire, burning in my heart / reaching a fever pitch and it's bringing me out the dark", if you catch my drift), some bits of wisdom being questionable (no alternatives to "righteous, cruel justice" are present in the poem, suggesting that forgiveness offers no justice), and the more consistent bits of the metaphor being underdeveloped ("the wash, though tough, is something better": how is it tough to pour water over a flame, especially when compared to....well, whatever stanza two has for an image), but their solutions will come once the mixed metaphor is resolved.

Awakening

ego te absolvo = I absolve you

The image we start with is interesting. I don't know what salt and peony petals are supposed to symbolize, but the altar and the confessional are engaging. At this point, the lack of punctuation damns it: I feel like punctuation could really clarify how the reader should hear the speaker.

The next stanza is more inconsistent. "tar-black loathing" is not an object, especially when compared to "altar", "booth", or "petals"; it's definitely not something to "retch". The line that follows more refers to the "tar", so I'd imagine just removing "black", "loathing", and even "my" would do. And then, the last lines of the stanza -- isn't Halimeda an alga?

The third stanza is even worse. "Halite incandescent beneath the lights" -- so salt that's light beneath other lights? that's a very useless image. "Or refract through the isometrics" -- isometrics? As in the exercise? Or the type of perspective? How can an exercise or a geometric type of perspective "refract"...someone?

And the fourth and fifth stanzas...well, they say something, but they're no longer connected to the parts that were both consistent and interesting.

It's all a bit of a mess. A mess to work with, but still a mess. My reading is that the speaker is discovering herself -- sexually, perhaps, in trying to escape religious constraints (the last lines of the third stanza really read like sex) -- or, although because of the general absence of a "you" (the you of the fourth stanza is never developed; the speaker asking if that you understands he is forgiven doesn't really count, as that says more about the speaker than about the addressed) this reading is rather remote, perhaps the speaker is forgiving someone of some sexual-romantic hiccup. The reading can't be strong, however, until the poem can organize itself.

"Empty Letters"

A pity this one didn't receive a title. Most untitled poems are either fragments, or never intended to be published, and I'd count this special event as a form of publishing. This is another piece that doesn't really need punctuation -- even when everything is in sentences, the piece is so short that it never adopts that additional thought pattern. Nor does it need much in the way of imagery: instead, the speaker has a distinct-enough voice, or the whole hinges on a subtle cleverness. That said, there's not much to get out of this piece.



For this batch of reviews, I seemed to talk a lot about rhythm. Unlike my previous note on specificity, as far as I know this one isn't as codified in English poetry; for this one, I'm synthesizing studies on English prosody and Japanese haiku. As for my sources in general, it's really hard to point to anything specific. My favorite bit of criticism is by Northrop Frye, in particular his Anatomy of Criticism; he's basically my source for genre, and possibly the true origin of this pet theory on rhythm.

Anyway, English poetry generally has three kinds of rhythm: a rhythm of images, a rhythm of thoughts, and a rhythm of sounds. The last is the most obvious, yet modern (online) novices seem to fail at it the most, or even forsake it altogether. That is a little disappointing, since sonics are part of the reason why free verse was invented in the first place: free verse was either a response to the regularity of most earlier verse, or an attempt at inventing a new type of meter altogether. In fact, by understanding the subtleties of prosody, in other words the means by which rhyme and meter can convey meaning, one will get a far better understanding of why, say, Walt Whitman always sounds bigger than himself, or why Louise Gluck's bare-bones style has punch.

The first can perhaps be compared to the cinematic idea of montage, where a series of images may develop entirely new meanings by the very sequence in which they appear. This is a little dependent on the second, though, since the manner by which thoughts flow out of the text also determines which images are emphasized.

The rhythm of thought may be developed by sound, with some thoughts requiring certain meters, and vice versa; think, for instance, why Milton wrote "Paradise Lost" in blank verse instead of as a ballad. For free verse, however, the rhythm of thought is mainly developed by three devices: the line, the stanza, and, yes, punctuation.

There are many things to consider when working with lines. Usually, the most emphasized word in a line is the last one, followed by the first. This, in turn, makes line length something to watch out for: the longer the line, the fewer things stick out. This then determines just how much tension there is in a piece: a series of short lines, for instance, makes the piece read somewhat fragmented, while a series of long lines can make it really boring. Then there is the choice of breaking up ideas and images: a broken idea or image can be startling, such as when the idea is somehow oxymoronic, or it can greatly weaken the idea by not allowing it to exist as a whole in the reader's mind.

Stanzas, I think, feel more natural, in part because there's less to consider when planning them out, in part because they have a clear prose equivalent. The thing to remember with the stanza, I'd say, is the same thing to remember with the paragraph: each stanza has to be united by some main idea.

Punctuation is the most devilish. Like in prose, punctuation can easily alter the meaning of a sentence: think "Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking her family and her dog" versus "Rachel Ray finds inspiration in cooking, her family, and her dog". When it comes to closely reading a poem, however, even when the punctuation has the same function, it can mean something, with em dashes providing space where semicolons couldn't, for example. Punctuation can also emphasize words and develop tension in the same manner as the line, with all kinds of punctuation providing pause: take, for example, just how breathless Molly Bloom sounds in the barely-punctuated soliloquy that ends Ulysses.

There are, of course, other details to think about when developing a rhythm of thoughts -- word choice, for example, with rarer words providing greater pause -- and I barely touched all things auditory, but the point is all of these little details are important, especially when compared to the more flexible genre of prose. Poetry, I think, is something to be read carefully, with meaning coming from every direction; and even if the point of most poetry is to express a strong feeling, a mastery of all these little details could only make that feeling stronger, or last longer, or express more useful things than just that one feeling that, however new to the writer, is probably nothing new to the audience.
 
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I like the imagery of what war leaves behind but what can't be seen. To me the emotion of forgiveness came across clearly and strong. There were a few lines (snappy peers) that threw off the rhythm for me, but I think that is because I just suck at reading poetry.

I like how this poem is bleeding into the climax and then bleeds out into the last part of the sentence of said climax. Personally I thought the point of view switched after the climax, switching to the other part and that the 'love is dead' was more symbolic than literal, but that might be my interpretation on it. It makes sense to me that way.

I like how the colour flows over to signify the loss of innocence and adding desperation into the words. I also love how you strung the words together to go from Forgiveness to Revenge. Though, I feel most of the impact gets lost in this poem without the formatting. The colours just add that extra dimension of emotion.

This brought me back to bible studies but less dreadful. XD

That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it! I like the flow and the rhyme you have. The flow really helped with smoothing over in scenes and gave the imagery just a nice beat to go along with.

I read everything together at first, which gave me a morbid feeling on what the story was behind. Then I read the lines apart from each other (blue lines only, red lines only) and I noticed the point where the tone of both characters changed. Where the red was at first in submission she suddenly flared up enraged and where the blue lines started loving it was tipped over to obsessive. I liked that detail a lot. Though the colours where rather hard to read on a dark background.

The switch between third and first person in the middle threw me. Is she retelling her own tale or narrating that of someone else? Or was that switch on purpose for style? If it was supposed to be a switch in person I recommend putting those verses in italics, or so to indicate this switch.

I loved the way the poem started. It was very gentle, and at the same time it brought along this promise of tragedy but without regret, just sad longingness. It is indeed a lover's sorrow to miss a love so much.

I have a love for shorter poems. The amount of emotion and imagery that you have to pack within a few lines. I find that you really executed both well in the piece. There are so many ways you can interpret this poem as, so many stories you can think up, but all with the same emotion. The only thing that took me a bit to connect was the title, as I couldn't connect it to the poem itself. Though, I feel that the title is for us, the reader more so than belonging to the poem.

The message tucked away at the start of the sentences accompanied by the title gives me a clear idea of what the poem is going to be about. The content itself gives me a clear view on what the battle was like. I like to compare it to the superficial and the emotional struggle. We can all see where one started and where one ends, but we don't see that what stirs inside. I like the rhythm and the sound of this poem when read aloud.

This one gives me second lead syndrome feels. The heartbreak of the one who loves their best friend who loves someone else. It gives me fuzzy shoujo manga feels, haha. Is this the intro of the rival that creates huge drama between the leads for the sake of love? XD

Otherwise a great piece to read out loud in pain.

Now that was mentally graphic. I don't entirely understand the piece, but I can feel and understand the grief. Just not the redemption, revenge would have made more sense to me with the way the poem was written.

I like to imagine that the piece starts with a flame and then becomes a fire only to sizzle down into peace which you called forgiveness. It is a nice imagery to have while reading the poem. I like the rhyme and the flow it has.

It gives a beautiful imagery compared to witch burnings, but like the rest I don't think I quite grasped the meaning without the explanation. I was imagining a ritual of sorts for religious purpose, but I suppose a rite of forgiveness hits close enough. All in all I liked it, and even more with the explanation behind it.

Wait people actually enjoyed this? Rofl.

I wrote this as an apology for PIPS. I had written something at the start of the month with the intention to submit it, but then chickened out. Then I looked at the themes again and decided to write an apology instead to PIPS for not being more courageous and creative. Seeing everyone place such deep meanings (and emotion) behind it is great, it shows how it resonates to the public unlike how I see and feel about it. To me it was just a simple lament of being unable to produce a better poem with the last word 'remiss' being a jab at myself.

That being said, I like the idea of naming it 'Courage' @Auphe. It is like mentioned before, courage isn't really displayed in the piece but suggested. Making it the title would prompt readers to think without seeing/knowing the prompts. I'm going to adopt that idea, thanks! c:

And along with that @Pahn I don't mind it if you change my anonymous to my username.

Wow. Acrostic and traditional rhyme. You really did well there, though seeing who wrote it I can't say I'm surprised. XD

Also am I supposed to read 'by piece by piece'? I have a hard time reading over that smoothly.

Oh man oh man oh man. The aftermath of revenge. You paint a clear imagery of what is happening to the girl after getting her revenge and realising that it doesn't change anything at all.

Also, since you mentioned watching Naruto the other day I'm imagining a certain pair of brothers there. XD

I like how you brought the whole piece around into a full circle by amending the first line. The whole imagery of two souls (lights) meeting, but their hosts being unlucky and rinse and repeat is also a bit I liked in the piece. The promise that it still hasn't ended, but rather suggesting that it just started also shows how the poem is (supposed to be) just another part of a whole.
 
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RiverNotch's Capsule Reviews! Part Three (Final)

Rebound

"I forgive them"

The piece strives for invention, yet falls flat due to numerous problems. "cull" and "quails" are not the right words. "hands", "knees", and "heart" are all cliches. Some of the metaphors are inconsistent: wounds, for example, mend before scarring (otherwise all mended wounds would be scarred), and nothing seems to be made of that accidental subversion. "Vitality wavers" is an abstraction that seems to have been added only to keep with the form -- and, on that note, the meter is forgotten by the second stanza. And, of course, all of this isn't helped by the fact that the situation is never clear enough for the reader to engage with.

"Alone she stands"

Here, the situation is somewhat clearer, yet still too ambiguous to work: I can just as easily read this as her brother being the one she had to fight, that line seems ill-placed. As for the picture presented, it isn't explored enough, poetically speaking. There's not much in the way of either meaning or interest in those first three lines, especially since comparing blood to wine is nothing new. What metaphors are developed aren't developed nearly enough: what does her army having been or being a tsunami mean to her situation? And then the piece depends too much on cliche or abstraction by its second half: "Destruction incarnate", "nurturing her pain", "Heart forced to change", "The burden still remained".

The piece doesn't dig deep enough into one of its themes, too. "Revenge" is fairly clear, but the "grief" involved here is, like the rest of the situation, too ambiguous to work: does she grieve because of her initial loss? because of what she did? because of what she lost, doing what she did? It's not so much that the theme isn't there -- it is, the problem is it's 'told', not 'shown'.

Soulmates

It would be sort of unethical for me to critique a poem I just produced, for two reasons: one, bias (to an unhelpful degree), and the other is it would be rather cheaty for those who want to develop strong readings of their own. I won't even sneak in anything via spoilers -- for those who have any questions (or for those critics who want to receive "answers"), please PM. Anyways, thanks for the reads, especially for those who also offered crit!



The first batch, I wrote in a rather excited state, which is probably why my points there seem rather limited. The second batch was more careful, and this third batch, being dedicated to only two pieces, is probably the most detailed, although also the clumsiest, prose-wise.

The goal of my critiques for this event was to help the authors make their pieces "worth publishing". This means polish -- every detail matters in a work of art -- and imagination, with the more visual or sonic or idiosyncratic pieces being more memorable, and thus more worth-the-ink-and-paper. These qualities also come into play when it comes to analysis, with more effective pieces often having more in them to analyze: the very virtue of being so effective, in fact, is already something to be analyzed.

If I find the time, I will be offering more detailed readings of some of the pieces I found to be particularly effective, especially as connected to the event's themes: I think my comments on how some pieces didn't have enough in them were overcorrections. I might also revisit some of the pieces I thought weren't that effective, but at the very least had something to say -- or perhaps the pieces I may have rushed through in the first batch, recalling my excited state at the time. At any rate, this may be the end of my capsule reviews, but I hope this isn't the end of my part in the discussion.
 
Congrats to:

@Auphe
@RiverNotch
@RJS
@CrystalTears
@Draugvan
@Nemopedia

Y'all got the PIPS Participant ribbon :D

The next wave of ribbons will be in about a week, so for those of you who haven't had time to post your little reviews of the poems, you still have until the end of the month to get the ribbon. The ribbon will be available on your profile until the end of June, so the earlier you post, the longer you'll have it!
 
Y'all have about two weeks left to get the gorgeous orange PIPS ribbon, for those of you who participated by sending a poem! Last day to post your commentary (in order to get a ribbon) is May 31!
 
Alright beautiful people!

The last round of PIPS ribbon will be awarded in three days so for those of you who still wanted to contribute, now's your last chance :D

Thank you to everyone who participated. This is perhaps the most successful edition of PIPS and it makes me really happy! Hopefully we shall be back again in August, so keep an eye open for that :D

There will be a live reading on Sunday June 3 @ 5 PM Eastern time on the Iwaku Discord. There won't be any recordings this time, but I will be reading all the submitted poems that have given permission to be read aloud. You may read your own submission if you wish!

Cheers :D
 
Can we get you to read other random things that aren't submissions? Poems at least :P
 
Can we get you to read other random things that aren't submissions? Poems at least :P
lmao, sure, once the submissions have been read :p
 
lmao, sure, once the submissions have been read :p
lmao great. I have a secret desire to make you read the cringiest edgiest things I can find. too late no take back

(Also, actual entries I wrote too late and forgot to replace the thing I posted lul. Finally got around to finishing them 2 months later. Feedbacks are welcomed please.)

Perception

I walk through life untrusting,
yearning to believe.
I philosophize my every thought,
loathing to discern the lies,
and the misperceptions I was taught.


Is there truly love in this world?
or only self-serving needs?
Fearing, hating, deceiving, faithless.
If saints starve so others can eat,
is it selflessness?
Or merely satisfaction of ideal,
outvaluing physical demands?
How could I see, how could I know?
In my heart kindness is a luxury, like summer's snow.


So I tell myself,
love does not exist.
Not the sacred undying faith stories try to sell,
merely glorified emotional attachments,
social constructs circumstantially dependent.
A virus, a thief, a disease, worming through my shell.
Sucks out my heart, sucks out my reason.
Plucking, pulling, jerking my strings of emotions.
I am its slave, its pawn, its puppet.
I want to break free, I yearn to, I need to, I must.
I will.
I have.


But even as I whisper these words,
I will always be a victim of life,
still what my world made me.
My mind sees the truth, but my heart is blind.
I doubt myself, every waking moments.
Is my love pure, or is it another lie?
I want to be deep, but I am shallow.
I want to break free of life's chains,
but I'm unsure if these weights are only my own shadow.


So I write these verses, only to say,
I don't believe in love, but I love anyway.


Lost Cause


Tell me again, darling, how you've changed.
How the last time you and him met, that was the end.
How in your life, but me there was no other man.
Oh baby, tell me again how you've changed.


I wanted his head on a fucking stake.
Instead I got yours sobbing on my pillow, the snake's.
I wished you out of my life.
Instead I got your insincere sorrow plaguing my head, the lies.

I would love to play the Saint, ignore the deceit.
But baby, I don't have it in me anymore to play along and forgive.


If I was me then, when we first met,
I would have taken your lies for honesty.
But baby, I find it funny, now, how clearly I see the truth.


You kisses are dull, your tears are false, your oaths are null.
Darling, all you still want from me,
Is a sense of normalcy.
A pretense at decency.
In this society that values reputation more than truth.


You don't want to be marked a cheater,
you might just lose followers.
You don't want people to know your addiction, expensive cars and fancy suits,
Your parents just might not approve.


Oh baby, I find it funny, I do.


Why you ever claimed to love me is a mystery,
I'm neither pretty, nor fancy, nor particularly likeable.
So baby, I can't, I won't be your rehab,
Not with you getting your fix from every pretty boy crossing your path.


So here we are, sweetheart, end of the line.
Thank god.


So please, tell me again how you've changed,
And I'll tell you how you've not.

Tell me again how much you need me,
And I'll tell you, for me our love is a cause already lost.

Tell me again how with me, you feel something no one else can make you feel,
how we've always made up before, each time we fought.

And I'll tell you, kindly, to go fuck yourself.
I still love you, but all I see are lies and rot.
 
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Hey everyone! Going live in about 5 minutes to read the poems in voice chat on the Iwaku discord!

It will be in Game Group 2 so that I don't have to use Push-to-talk the entire time. For those who will only be listening, please make sure to mute yourself or enable PTT so I don't get randomly interrupted 8D